Menu
News
All News
Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
Pathfinder
Starfinder
Warhammer
2d20 System
Year Zero Engine
Industry News
Reviews
Dragon Reflections
White Dwarf Reflections
Columns
Weekly Digests
Weekly News Digest
Freebies, Sales & Bundles
RPG Print News
RPG Crowdfunding News
Game Content
ENterplanetary DimENsions
Mythological Figures
Opinion
Worlds of Design
Peregrine's Nest
RPG Evolution
Other Columns
From the Freelancing Frontline
Monster ENcyclopedia
WotC/TSR Alumni Look Back
4 Hours w/RSD (Ryan Dancey)
The Road to 3E (Jonathan Tweet)
Greenwood's Realms (Ed Greenwood)
Drawmij's TSR (Jim Ward)
Community
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions, OSR, & D&D Variants
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Resources
Wiki
Pages
Latest activity
Media
New media
New comments
Search media
Downloads
Latest reviews
Search resources
EN Publishing
Store
EN5ider
Adventures in ZEITGEIST
Awfully Cheerful Engine
What's OLD is NEW
Judge Dredd & The Worlds Of 2000AD
War of the Burning Sky
Level Up: Advanced 5E
Events & Releases
Upcoming Events
Private Events
Featured Events
Socials!
EN Publishing
Twitter
BlueSky
Facebook
Instagram
EN World
BlueSky
YouTube
Facebook
Twitter
Twitch
Podcast
Features
Top 5 RPGs Compiled Charts 2004-Present
Adventure Game Industry Market Research Summary (RPGs) V1.0
Ryan Dancey: Acquiring TSR
Q&A With Gary Gygax
D&D Rules FAQs
TSR, WotC, & Paizo: A Comparative History
D&D Pronunciation Guide
Million Dollar TTRPG Kickstarters
Tabletop RPG Podcast Hall of Fame
Eric Noah's Unofficial D&D 3rd Edition News
D&D in the Mainstream
D&D & RPG History
About Morrus
Log in
Register
What's new
Search
Search
Search titles only
By:
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions, OSR, & D&D Variants
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Menu
Log in
Register
Install the app
Install
Upgrade your account to a Community Supporter account and remove most of the site ads.
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*Dungeons & Dragons
Any fluff from various editions you want to see carried forward in 5e?
JavaScript is disabled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding.
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an
alternative browser
.
Reply to thread
Message
<blockquote data-quote="steeldragons" data-source="post: 5812131" data-attributes="member: 92511"><p>This isn't exactly something that was "lost" but more something I'd like to see preserved...</p><p></p><p>Racial Fluff.</p><p>I want stone-crafting, gold-mining, mountain (or hill!)-living, ale-swigging dwarves.</p><p></p><p>I want forest-dwelling, magic-making, bow-wielding, wine-swigging elves.</p><p></p><p>I want hill-farming, pipe-smoking, sling-...um...slinging, mead-swigging (hm. Am I seeing a "swigging" pattern here?) halflings...WITH HAIRY FEET! (call the skinny boot-wearers whatever you must and be done with it. But for the love of the gods burn the "flat-headed, corn-rowed, river-gypsies"!)</p><p></p><p>Yes, yes. I know. We are all soooo "over" that. That was 40 years ago and we're infinitely more creative now. I know. We are! But you have to <em>start</em> somewhere. And for the core/basic books there needs to be a baseline.</p><p></p><p>You can have all of the sea-faring gnomes and planet-jumping elves, swamp dwarves and arctic winged halflings you like. Stat out 20 "sub-races" for each if you want. But they don't need to be in the core/main books. </p><p></p><p>The basic/core books can't (and don't need to) give you stats and abilities for every possible permutation.</p><p></p><p>There's a very real limit/ratio to page count and printing/product price...not to mention the risk (or inevitability) of "bloat".</p><p></p><p>The initial releases shouldn't say 'Well, dwarves are 4 feet tall, have beards, and can't get knocked down. The rest is up to you."</p><p></p><p>But nor should they say "Here's six pages of various dwarf cultures, 10 pages of elves, 4 pages of gnomes and, oh yeah, there's halflings too (but we won't make a big deal outta them so as not to ruffle the Tolkien estate)." </p><p></p><p>Stick to the classics...flesh them out to make them feel like "real" peoples and cultures. Leave the rest to individual groups/DMs imaginations and tools for building whatever they like of their own devising.</p><p></p><p><breathe. huff. breathe. exhale> Ok. I'm back now. Fin rant.</p><p></p><p>So yeah, fluff the races...please. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /></p><p>--SD</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="steeldragons, post: 5812131, member: 92511"] This isn't exactly something that was "lost" but more something I'd like to see preserved... Racial Fluff. I want stone-crafting, gold-mining, mountain (or hill!)-living, ale-swigging dwarves. I want forest-dwelling, magic-making, bow-wielding, wine-swigging elves. I want hill-farming, pipe-smoking, sling-...um...slinging, mead-swigging (hm. Am I seeing a "swigging" pattern here?) halflings...WITH HAIRY FEET! (call the skinny boot-wearers whatever you must and be done with it. But for the love of the gods burn the "flat-headed, corn-rowed, river-gypsies"!) Yes, yes. I know. We are all soooo "over" that. That was 40 years ago and we're infinitely more creative now. I know. We are! But you have to [I]start[/I] somewhere. And for the core/basic books there needs to be a baseline. You can have all of the sea-faring gnomes and planet-jumping elves, swamp dwarves and arctic winged halflings you like. Stat out 20 "sub-races" for each if you want. But they don't need to be in the core/main books. The basic/core books can't (and don't need to) give you stats and abilities for every possible permutation. There's a very real limit/ratio to page count and printing/product price...not to mention the risk (or inevitability) of "bloat". The initial releases shouldn't say 'Well, dwarves are 4 feet tall, have beards, and can't get knocked down. The rest is up to you." But nor should they say "Here's six pages of various dwarf cultures, 10 pages of elves, 4 pages of gnomes and, oh yeah, there's halflings too (but we won't make a big deal outta them so as not to ruffle the Tolkien estate)." Stick to the classics...flesh them out to make them feel like "real" peoples and cultures. Leave the rest to individual groups/DMs imaginations and tools for building whatever they like of their own devising. <breathe. huff. breathe. exhale> Ok. I'm back now. Fin rant. So yeah, fluff the races...please. :D --SD [/QUOTE]
Insert quotes…
Verification
Post reply
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*Dungeons & Dragons
Any fluff from various editions you want to see carried forward in 5e?
Top