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<blockquote data-quote="rounser" data-source="post: 54221" data-attributes="member: 1106">Oh dear, you really don't get it.&nbsp; Just because I find some things suck about 3E, doesn't mean I think the entire thing does.I said &quot;...there are multiple ways in which 3E sucks...&quot;.&nbsp; There are multiple ways in which other editions suck too.&nbsp; That's the kind of thing a really arrogant creep would write.&nbsp; I think you've just proved your own credibility right there.&nbsp; You're right, there's no point in arguing with the likes of you.I'll take your logic to task if you dismiss everything but 3E as crap and present it as fact.&nbsp; Okay sunshine, I don't know what version of 1E you were playing, but it came with a hell of a lot more than just some rules mechanics like THAC0.&nbsp; I remember:MonstersSettingsArtworkAdventuresSpellsNPCsAnd what kind of debt do you think 3E has to all of that?&nbsp; It's incredibly derivative.&nbsp; This strongly implies that 1E wasn't all crap, and in fact had some very good content indeed.&nbsp; I don't like level limits, but at least I'm able to appreciate that the game had some good content, and not dismiss the lot as trash.I play 3E.&nbsp; Try again.If you think 3E is RPG state of the art, I think you're very naive.&nbsp; My view of 3E is that it is a compromise between the old and the new, pretty much designed by committee.&nbsp; If you want to use transport metaphors to float your sinking argument, 3E is wagon wheels on a Porsche.There are 3E fanboys everywhere.&nbsp; &quot;I jumped into this thread&quot; as you so amusingly suggest to play devil's advocate, and add a little critical thinking and discussion to blanket statements such as suggesting that all versions of D&amp;D before 3E were &quot;crappy&quot;.Fanboys don't indulge in much critical thinking, which is what I'm trying to present whilst you sling mud, 3E fanboy.But all of it?&nbsp; Sounds pretty closeminded and simplistic to me.That's laughable coming from the guy who wrote this:Back in your box.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="rounser, post: 54221, member: 1106"] Oh dear, you really don't get it. Just because I find some things suck about 3E, doesn't mean I think the entire thing does. I said "...there are multiple ways in which 3E sucks...". There are multiple ways in which other editions suck too. That's the kind of thing a really arrogant creep would write. I think you've just proved your own credibility right there. You're right, there's no point in arguing with the likes of you. I'll take your logic to task if you dismiss everything but 3E as crap and present it as fact. Okay sunshine, I don't know what version of 1E you were playing, but it came with a hell of a lot more than just some rules mechanics like THAC0. I remember: Monsters Settings Artwork Adventures Spells NPCs And what kind of debt do you think 3E has to all of that? It's incredibly derivative. This strongly implies that 1E wasn't all crap, and in fact had some very good content indeed. I don't like level limits, but at least I'm able to appreciate that the game had some good content, and not dismiss the lot as trash. I play 3E. Try again. If you think 3E is RPG state of the art, I think you're very naive. My view of 3E is that it is a compromise between the old and the new, pretty much designed by committee. If you want to use transport metaphors to float your sinking argument, 3E is wagon wheels on a Porsche. There are 3E fanboys everywhere. "I jumped into this thread" as you so amusingly suggest to play devil's advocate, and add a little critical thinking and discussion to blanket statements such as suggesting that all versions of D&D before 3E were "crappy". Fanboys don't indulge in much critical thinking, which is what I'm trying to present whilst you sling mud, 3E fanboy. But all of it? Sounds pretty closeminded and simplistic to me. That's laughable coming from the guy who wrote this: Back in your box. [/QUOTE]

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