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<blockquote data-quote="TwinBahamut" data-source="post: 3879659" data-attributes="member: 32536">I am just debating an idea that you have proposed. If you notice, I didn't even mention anything steampunky in my last post. Substitute &quot;magical artifice&quot; with steampunk if you like (though that defeats the point of it being nonmagical). Either way, it doesn't work as martial.Well, how about we take a page from the White Raven discipline (the obvious model for the warlord), in which you do things like lead a charge yourself, knock a person off balance so that others can hit him more easily, or use an attack to distract your enemies so that your allies can move. These are tactical leadership moves, but they are done in a very physical, melee combat manner. I imagine the Warlord will function the exact same way. The Warlord won't direct his allies from afar, he will be supporting them from up close, using his attacks to set up strong attacks from his allies. I say that counts as &quot;physical ability&quot;.First, this is not my experience, and is certainly not universal to the class. Second, there is a big differnce between being able to make items, and making items as your core gimmick. I don't think it is comparable.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="TwinBahamut, post: 3879659, member: 32536"] I am just debating an idea that you have proposed. If you notice, I didn't even mention anything steampunky in my last post. Substitute "magical artifice" with steampunk if you like (though that defeats the point of it being nonmagical). Either way, it doesn't work as martial. Well, how about we take a page from the White Raven discipline (the obvious model for the warlord), in which you do things like lead a charge yourself, knock a person off balance so that others can hit him more easily, or use an attack to distract your enemies so that your allies can move. These are tactical leadership moves, but they are done in a very physical, melee combat manner. I imagine the Warlord will function the exact same way. The Warlord won't direct his allies from afar, he will be supporting them from up close, using his attacks to set up strong attacks from his allies. I say that counts as "physical ability". First, this is not my experience, and is certainly not universal to the class. Second, there is a big differnce between being able to make items, and making items as your core gimmick. I don't think it is comparable. [/QUOTE]

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