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<blockquote data-quote="Infiniti2000" data-source="post: 2487314" data-attributes="member: 31734">So, you're saying that readying an action actually puts you back in time?&nbsp; That especially makes readying against a charge interesting.&nbsp; I mean no offense, but do you really believe what you wrote or are you just cutting n' pasting the SRD without trying to reason out some examples and putting the rule in context?&nbsp; Just think about the charge example, as one of many.&nbsp; How about disrupting a spell, what concentration check do you need?&nbsp; If I ready &quot;if she starts casting a spell&quot; then clearly 'she' must make a concentration check.&nbsp; Based on what you wrote, my attack occurs before the casting starts, despite how I word the trigger.&nbsp; In fact, I suppose according to you I could ready &quot;if she almost completes the spell&quot; and when my action triggers in the middle of hers, I still move back in time to complete the attack before she starts.&nbsp; Anyway, when we look on the concentration table, the first one applies, so you're saying the table is in error when it says &quot;damaged during the action&quot;, right?&nbsp;Are you arguing then that you only perform the action on your turn?&nbsp; So, when you perform a full round action as two standard actions, there's a gap?&nbsp; Can you defend this viewpoint?&nbsp; I see nothing about the Start/Complete FRA that says you are not performing the action outside your turn.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Infiniti2000, post: 2487314, member: 31734"] So, you're saying that readying an action actually puts you back in time? That especially makes readying against a charge interesting. I mean no offense, but do you really believe what you wrote or are you just cutting n' pasting the SRD without trying to reason out some examples and putting the rule in context? Just think about the charge example, as one of many. How about disrupting a spell, what concentration check do you need? If I ready "if she starts casting a spell" then clearly 'she' must make a concentration check. Based on what you wrote, my attack occurs before the casting starts, despite how I word the trigger. In fact, I suppose according to you I could ready "if she almost completes the spell" and when my action triggers in the middle of hers, I still move back in time to complete the attack before she starts. Anyway, when we look on the concentration table, the first one applies, so you're saying the table is in error when it says "damaged [b]during the action[/b]", right? Are you arguing then that you only perform the action on your turn? So, when you perform a full round action as two standard actions, there's a gap? Can you defend this viewpoint? I see nothing about the Start/Complete FRA that says you are not performing the action outside your turn. [/QUOTE]

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