Arcane Power: Avatars of Chaos

[mneme]

Er, wow?

Ok, so for a Sorcerer Utility 16 daily, and a minor action, you get:

Immunity to (more or less) the next four damaging effects (and missed attacks don't reduce this number; they just bounce off).

Effective immunity to status effects (one of your avatars is hit with an effect? Just switch to a different one!)

+1 to attack as long as whicheve avatars match your favorite energy type are still around.

The ability to choose from up to four different places to begin your turn each turn, depending on what you want to do -- and block four different squares.

Oh, and if that's not enough, you can spend a minor action to end the effect and teleport to any one of the squares you started the images in. Just for kicks (great when you're down to one image which has been hit with a Daze effect -- use a minor action to end it, then take your move and standard!).

I'm not sure whether to say "isn't that a bit much for a 16th level Utility" or "sign me up!"

 

[fissionessence]

I also thought this power was a bit extreme . . . but also really cool!

The only thing I didn't like is the four energy types selected.

~

 

[ppaladin123]

The trick is to find a way to protect your other avatars. They won't last long in the midst of a large battle. Maybe you can place them up on a cliff out of harms way and fly into battle.

 

[Akaiku]

With all the WoW references, nobody picked up on this being Earth Wind and Fire from a pandarian brewmaster in Warcraft 3? Use it the same way.

 

[Plane Sailing]

Effective immunity to status effects (one of your avatars is hit with an effect? Just switch to a different one!)

I don't see this in the text - nothing says that if you are dazed or stunned or have a penalty that it is attached to the image rather than you.

 

[mneme]

I don't see this in the text - nothing says that if you are dazed or stunned or have a penalty that it is attached to the image rather than you.

Your avatars aren't you. Are you prone just because one of your avatars is prone? No.

The power says that you vanish from the battlefield, and can instead act through conjured creatures -- so that's what happens.

Obviously, if you were dazed or stunned or prone or whatnot -before- using the power, then you keep this condition. But while this power is running, you aren't on the battlefield at all; your avatars are.

(huh. There are some interesting questions here; starting with multiclassing and opportunity attacks, and ending with defensive powers.)

 

[Plane Sailing]

Your avatars aren't you. Are you prone just because one of your avatars is prone? No.

The power says that you vanish from the battlefield, and can instead act through conjured creatures -- so that's what happens.

Obviously, if you were dazed or stunned or prone or whatnot -before- using the power, then you keep this condition. But while this power is running, you aren't on the battlefield at all; your avatars are.

(huh. There are some interesting questions here; starting with multiclassing and opportunity attacks, and ending with defensive powers.)

I think you are implying more than the power gives you. It is powerful enough as it is, but your implications take it much further.

Typically, any power does what it says - no more, no less.

Cheers

 

[baberg]

I agree with Plane. Status effects remain, and here's why I think so:

Beginning of your turn, you "occupy" an image. (First off, what happened to no fluff in crunch descriptions WotC? Seriously...) I take this to mean that your character is now the image. So you move and attack, and that's fine. Your turn ends and you remain in that image.

Let's say an enemy controller dazes you without doing damage. You yourself are dazed, not your image. When it comes around to your turn, you take the no-action of inhabiting another image, but you yourself are still dazed. The same for prone, ongoing damage (which would destroy an image and force you to pick another one), and every other status effect I can think of.

An image that isn't "occupied" is just standing there doing nothing, so that would mean no opportunity attacks, no flanking (has to be able to attack to flank), etc. etc. etc.

 

[mneme]

I don't see where one can draw the conclusion that you (and not your images) are vulnerable to status effects without deciding that you (and not your images) are vulnerable to death and damage.

It never -says- that you cannot be damaged -- it says that you vanish from the battlefield (which kinda implied not being affected by anything as long as you're gone).


Re occupying an image, what it says is that you "can act normally (including moving and making attacks)" when you occupy an image -- don't see anywhere where it says you are vulnerable to attacks on that image (and the fact that you don't take damage when it does is a pretty strong clue thta you aren't.

Obviously, you don't get to act (including Immediate actions) through your non-occupied images. They're not helpless (they do have your full defenses), but yeah, they pretty much stand there until you occupy them (well, unless something hits them with a status effect).