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<blockquote data-quote="baberg" data-source="post: 4764281" data-attributes="member: 61654">Precedence, baby!&nbsp; Compare these powers from PHB...Angel of Elven Winds, Cleric 22: &quot;grant... a speed of fly 8&quot;Cloud Chariot, Cleric 22: &quot;...have a speed of fly 8&quot;Angel Ascent, Angelic Avenger 20: &quot;You gain a speed of fly 6&quot;Shadow Form, Warlock (Star) 10: &quot;...gain fly 6&quot;Wings of the Fiend, Warlock (Infernal) 22: &quot;...gain a fly speed equal to your speed...&quot;Fly, Wizard 16: &quot;You gain a fly speed of...&quot;Mass Fly, Wizard 22: &quot;All targets gain a fly speed of...&quot;...to these powers from PHB and the topic of this discussion from Arcane Power:Radiant Charge, Paladin 13: &quot;You fly a number of squares...&quot;Cloak of Shadow, Warlock (Infernal) 16: &quot;Fly a number of squares... &quot;Dominant Winds, Sorcerer 16: &quot;The target can fly a number of squares...&quot;If WotC wanted to use this power to give you a fly speed, they would have specifically said that it gives you a fly speed as it does in the other half-dozen abilities that let you &quot;fly&quot;.&nbsp; And since there are powers in PHB that use the same terminology as Dominant Winds, it's not an oversight.&nbsp; And in case somebody chimes in with &quot;The other powers gave numbers, so this is just a shorthand!&quot; I direct you to Wings of the Fiend, which has no number but specifically states that you get a fly speed.Dominant Winds does not grant you a fly speed.&nbsp; If you end your turn above ground with Dominant Winds, you will fall to the ground and take fall damage because you do not have a Fly speed.It is not broken.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="baberg, post: 4764281, member: 61654"] Precedence, baby! Compare these powers from PHB... Angel of Elven Winds, Cleric 22: "grant... a speed of fly 8" Cloud Chariot, Cleric 22: "...have a speed of fly 8" Angel Ascent, Angelic Avenger 20: "You gain a speed of fly 6" Shadow Form, Warlock (Star) 10: "...gain fly 6" Wings of the Fiend, Warlock (Infernal) 22: "...gain a fly speed equal to your speed..." Fly, Wizard 16: "You gain a fly speed of..." Mass Fly, Wizard 22: "All targets gain a fly speed of..." ...to these powers from PHB and the topic of this discussion from Arcane Power: Radiant Charge, Paladin 13: "You fly a number of squares..." Cloak of Shadow, Warlock (Infernal) 16: "Fly a number of squares... " Dominant Winds, Sorcerer 16: "The target can fly a number of squares..." If WotC wanted to use this power to give you a fly speed, they would have specifically said that it gives you a fly speed as it does in the other half-dozen abilities that let you "fly". And since there are powers in PHB that use the same terminology as Dominant Winds, it's not an oversight. And in case somebody chimes in with "The other powers gave numbers, so this is just a shorthand!" I direct you to Wings of the Fiend, which has no number but specifically states that you get a fly speed. Dominant Winds does not grant you a fly speed. If you end your turn above ground with Dominant Winds, you will fall to the ground and take fall damage because you do not have a Fly speed. It is not broken. [/QUOTE]

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