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<blockquote data-quote="Nifelhein" data-source="post: 1469668" data-attributes="member: 14129"><p>Thanks for the response guys. I wondered this when i was rereading the PHB and nothing was there to stop the possiblity without the need for a thousand feats. By the rules and what I have read (note I am not referencing them), drawing an arrow is a free action if you do so for firing it, so the archer could not load a free arrow at the end of the round and take AoOs with it.</p><p></p><p>An archer with quick draw could draw the arrow at the end of his turn,a s there is nothing to stop him from doing so, of course that a DM can rule that drawing yet another arrow would make for too many free actions in a round.</p><p></p><p>Another possible idea for justificating this to any player showing up with it is that using an arrow with your hands require a very different hold of it than one can get quickly for using with the bow, thus requiring a moe action to draw it without quick draw.</p><p></p><p>The -4 penalty for improvised weapon is a good one, cpould a player take a feat to offset it? There is no feat dedicated to an improvised weapon category, although i think that exotic weapon should do it. Would it be fair? Possibly so, an arrow is not all that good as a melee weapon.</p><p></p><p>Thanks for participating guys, I had this thought and had to ask and share you know... my archers from now on are surely going to pick quick draw, thus threatening the area around them! <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite2" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=";)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Nifelhein, post: 1469668, member: 14129"] Thanks for the response guys. I wondered this when i was rereading the PHB and nothing was there to stop the possiblity without the need for a thousand feats. By the rules and what I have read (note I am not referencing them), drawing an arrow is a free action if you do so for firing it, so the archer could not load a free arrow at the end of the round and take AoOs with it. An archer with quick draw could draw the arrow at the end of his turn,a s there is nothing to stop him from doing so, of course that a DM can rule that drawing yet another arrow would make for too many free actions in a round. Another possible idea for justificating this to any player showing up with it is that using an arrow with your hands require a very different hold of it than one can get quickly for using with the bow, thus requiring a moe action to draw it without quick draw. The -4 penalty for improvised weapon is a good one, cpould a player take a feat to offset it? There is no feat dedicated to an improvised weapon category, although i think that exotic weapon should do it. Would it be fair? Possibly so, an arrow is not all that good as a melee weapon. Thanks for participating guys, I had this thought and had to ask and share you know... my archers from now on are surely going to pick quick draw, thus threatening the area around them! ;) [/QUOTE]
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