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<blockquote data-quote="HP Dreadnought" data-source="post: 4927341" data-attributes="member: 55935"><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="color: #000000"><span style="color: red"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="color: #1f497d"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="color: #4f81bd"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="color: white">I have a question about this power. Its the 12th level utility power for the battlefield Archer.</span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="color: #000000"><span style="color: red"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="color: #1f497d"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="color: #4f81bd"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="color: #000000"><span style="color: red"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="color: #1f497d"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="color: #4f81bd"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><strong><span style="color: white">----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------</span></strong></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="color: #000000"><span style="color: red"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="color: #1f497d"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="color: #4f81bd"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><strong><span style="color: white">Archer's Glory</span></strong><span style="color: white"></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="color: #000000"><span style="color: red"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="color: #1f497d"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="color: #4f81bd"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="color: white">One enemy falls, and those that remain are about to learn what heroism</span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="color: #000000"><span style="color: red"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="color: #1f497d"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="color: #4f81bd"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="color: white">is all about.</span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="color: #000000"><span style="color: red"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="color: #1f497d"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="color: #4f81bd"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="color: #000000"><span style="color: red"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="color: #1f497d"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="color: #4f81bd"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="color: white">Encounter </span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="color: #000000"><span style="color: red"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="color: #1f497d"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="color: #4f81bd"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="color: white">Martial</span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="color: #000000"><span style="color: red"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="color: #1f497d"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="color: #4f81bd"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="color: white">Free Action </span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="color: #000000"><span style="color: red"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="color: #1f497d"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="color: #4f81bd"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="color: white">Personal </span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="color: #000000"><span style="color: red"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="color: #1f497d"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="color: #4f81bd"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="color: white">Trigger: One of your ranged attacks drops an enemy to 0 hit points or</span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="color: #000000"><span style="color: red"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="color: #1f497d"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="color: #4f81bd"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="color: white">fewer</span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="color: #000000"><span style="color: red"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="color: #1f497d"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="color: #4f81bd"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="color: white">Effect: You gain an action point that you must spend before the end of</span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="color: #000000"><span style="color: red"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="color: #1f497d"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="color: #4f81bd"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="color: white">your next turn.</span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="color: #000000"><span style="color: red"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="color: #1f497d"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="color: #4f81bd"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="color: #000000"><span style="color: red"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="color: #1f497d"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="color: #4f81bd"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">-------------------------------------------------------------------------------</span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="color: #000000"><span style="color: red"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="color: #1f497d"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="color: #4f81bd"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="color: #000000"><span style="color: red"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="color: #1f497d"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="color: #4f81bd"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="color: white">It would seem that this power creates an exception to the 1 action point per turn rule. It stipulates that you gain an action point, and that you MUST spend it before the end of your next turn.</span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="color: #000000"><span style="color: red"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="color: #1f497d"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="color: #4f81bd"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="color: #000000"><span style="color: red"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="color: #1f497d"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="color: #4f81bd"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="color: white">It doesn't say that "if you don't spend it before the next turn, it is lost" it says you must spend it.</span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="color: #000000"><span style="color: red"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="color: #1f497d"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="color: #4f81bd"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="color: #000000"><span style="color: red"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="color: #1f497d"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="color: #4f81bd"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="color: white">To me, this indicates the power functions as described even if you've already spent an action point this turn, or if the power has already triggered. However, the power doesn't call out the fact that you can spend more than 1 action point per turn.</span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="color: #000000"><span style="color: red"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="color: #1f497d"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="color: #4f81bd"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="color: #000000"><span style="color: red"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="color: #1f497d"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="color: #4f81bd"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="color: white">Thus, you have 2 competing non-optional directives:</span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="color: #000000"><span style="color: red"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="color: #1f497d"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="color: #4f81bd"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="color: #000000"><span style="color: red"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="color: #1f497d"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="color: #4f81bd"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="color: white">1. You may not spend more than 1 action point per turn.</span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="color: #000000"><span style="color: red"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="color: #1f497d"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="color: #4f81bd"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="color: white">2. You gain an action point and MUST spend it.</span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="color: #000000"><span style="color: red"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="color: #1f497d"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="color: #4f81bd"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="color: #000000"><span style="color: red"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="color: #1f497d"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="color: #4f81bd"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="color: white">Thoughts?</span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="color: #000000"><span style="color: red"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="color: #1f497d"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="color: #4f81bd"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="HP Dreadnought, post: 4927341, member: 55935"] [FONT=Times New Roman][COLOR=#000000][COLOR=red][FONT=Times New Roman][COLOR=#1f497d][FONT=Times New Roman][COLOR=#4f81bd][FONT=Times New Roman][COLOR=white]I have a question about this power. Its the 12th level utility power for the battlefield Archer.[/COLOR][COLOR=white][FONT=Verdana][/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=white][FONT=Verdana] [/FONT][/COLOR] [B][COLOR=white]----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------[/COLOR][/B] [B][COLOR=white]Archer's Glory[/COLOR][/B][COLOR=white] One enemy falls, and those that remain are about to learn what heroism is all about.[/COLOR][COLOR=white][FONT=Verdana][/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=white][/COLOR] [COLOR=white]Encounter [/COLOR][COLOR=white][FONT=Verdana][/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=white]Martial Free Action [/COLOR][COLOR=white][FONT=Verdana][/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=white]Personal Trigger: One of your ranged attacks drops an enemy to 0 hit points or fewer[/COLOR][COLOR=white][FONT=Verdana][/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=white]Effect: You gain an action point that you must spend before the end of your next turn.[/COLOR][COLOR=white][FONT=Verdana][/FONT][/COLOR] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- [COLOR=white][FONT=Verdana] [/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=white]It would seem that this power creates an exception to the 1 action point per turn rule. It stipulates that you gain an action point, and that you MUST spend it before the end of your next turn.[/COLOR] [COLOR=white][/COLOR] [COLOR=white]It doesn't say that "if you don't spend it before the next turn, it is lost" it says you must spend it.[/COLOR] [COLOR=white][/COLOR] [COLOR=white]To me, this indicates the power functions as described even if you've already spent an action point this turn, or if the power has already triggered. However, the power doesn't call out the fact that you can spend more than 1 action point per turn.[/COLOR] [COLOR=white][/COLOR] [COLOR=white]Thus, you have 2 competing non-optional directives:[/COLOR] [COLOR=white][/COLOR] [COLOR=white]1. You may not spend more than 1 action point per turn.[/COLOR] [COLOR=white]2. You gain an action point and MUST spend it.[/COLOR] [COLOR=white][/COLOR] [COLOR=white]Thoughts?[/COLOR] [/FONT][/COLOR][/FONT][/COLOR][/FONT][/COLOR][/COLOR][/FONT] [/QUOTE]
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