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<blockquote data-quote="Quickleaf" data-source="post: 1958928" data-attributes="member: 20323">If you look at DrSpunnj's class spreadsheet, you'll find the D&amp;D classes are unbalanced as is. In addition, the D&amp;D classes are pretty restrictive. And if you want options, you've got to buy special &quot;class&quot; books. I think a lot of the really cool options (menus) for characters are found in those class books. There's no reason (besides money-making) why those abilities couldn't be rolled into a core book, providing great flexibility for the core classes.A couple posts have mentioned wanting a menu-based system with pre-made archetypes demonstrating how the menus could be used to create &quot;traditional&quot; roles. I think organizing abilities according to classes is a good idea. Check out the Ultimate CLasses by Szatany at the WOTC website for a good example of how this might be done. Also, there needs to be a way for a spy-archetype character to be better at disguise than a character who has taken disguise as a class skill.I definitely think that there should be an open window for the players to create whatever archetypes (or lack thereof) they want. One way to do this is writing down a brief statement about your character, like &quot;looks good and knows it.&quot; Whenever attempting any action involving that statement the character gets a bonus. This would ensure that each player's PC is the best at their concept's skills.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Quickleaf, post: 1958928, member: 20323"] If you look at DrSpunnj's class spreadsheet, you'll find the D&D classes are unbalanced as is. In addition, the D&D classes are pretty restrictive. And if you want options, you've got to buy special "class" books. I think a lot of the really cool options (menus) for characters are found in those class books. There's no reason (besides money-making) why those abilities couldn't be rolled into a core book, providing great flexibility for the core classes. A couple posts have mentioned wanting a menu-based system with pre-made archetypes demonstrating how the menus could be used to create "traditional" roles. I think organizing abilities according to classes is a good idea. Check out the Ultimate CLasses by Szatany at the WOTC website for a good example of how this might be done. Also, there needs to be a way for a spy-archetype character to be better at disguise than a character who has taken disguise as a class skill. I definitely think that there should be an open window for the players to create whatever archetypes (or lack thereof) they want. One way to do this is writing down a brief statement about your character, like "looks good and knows it." Whenever attempting any action involving that statement the character gets a bonus. This would ensure that each player's PC is the best at their concept's skills. [/QUOTE]

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