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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Herremann the Wise" data-source="post: 2643959" data-attributes="member: 11300">I can see your point here with bad rules - rules should be foolproof, regardless of who uses them. However, the situation I mentioned means it most likely will not be an issue in certain games but it would in others. I was just pointing this out as it had not been mentioned. I was not really looking for an argument on the matter.  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> The Cleric list is more powerful than the wizard's in terms of undead. Aside from this though, I think the balance is still in favour of the wizard (although it is counterbalanced once more by the cleric instantly getting access to all spells of a new level while the wizard has to spend time working up his or her list).The possible inclusion of the Druid list however is the crux of the matter. Left unchecked (go see the Kinko's Druid Spell Megaplex with 3 hours free parking style), then the archivist most likely is right up there with the cleric, wizard and druid. However, in "real" game terms, I can see its power just slightly behind those three. Obviously, this is just my opinion. If I ever to get to play an archivist, I think I'd have a more first hand and useful experience to relate.Best RegardsHerremann the Wise</blockquote>

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