D&D General Are creatures of the Ethereal Plane the Elemental creature type?

[Yaarel]

The rules are surprisingly incomplete: there is no Ethereal creature type.

There are four Elemental Planes - Earth, Water, Air, and Fire. But "Ether" is also an element, the "fifth element", quintessence. The four elements are states of matter, while the fifth element lacks matter but is still physical, such as gravity.

The element of Ether relates to force and soul.

Thus, those creatures that are made out of Ether and inhabit the Ethereal Plane, including the Border Ethereal that overlaps the Material Plane, can make sense as the Elemental creature type.

The question relates to animism, where features of nature in the Material Plane can extend their influence across the Border Ethereal. It can be useful to classify such phenomena as the Elemental creature type for statblocks and so on.

 

[Paul Farquhar]

In D&D the ethereal plane is described as a transitive plane. I.e. something beings pass through on the way to somewhere else. The closest thing to regular inhabitants are incorporeal undead, but they originate in the material planes and hang around the boarder.

It’s not based around animism or any other real world belief system.

 

[Marandahir]

Aether as a fifth element was really more of an understanding of the circles of the world – Earth/Water/Air/Fire/the Pure Air beyond the Fire. Aether literally means pure air in Homeric Greek, though it took on a sort of mix of the Fire and Air properties later in connection to the Phlogistron theory.

The Ethereal Plane is not really that closely connected with this concept other than that Ether is sometimes considered the Fifth Element and the Ethereal Plane is the route from the Material to the Inner Planes. D&D's Ethereal Plane was really not so much a place as a mechanical explanation for incoporeal beings such as ghosts, and as a route to the Inner Planes to parallel the Astral Plane as a route to the Outer Planes. The Astral Plane is just as much connected to the ideas of the Quintessence as the Ethereal Plane is, after all.

4E got rid of the Ethereal Plane because it was trying to get away from un-places that exist as just-so stories and focus on planes where adventures can happen. This allowed the Plane of Shadow and Plane of Faerie and the Elemental Chaos to each ape a bit of the Ethereal Plane's shtick and divvy it up amongst them while allowing these planes to flesh out in ways beyond the vaguest of vague sketches past editions did for them. Shadowfell also got to ape Ravenloft for more setting details, and the Raven Queen/Shadar-Kai/Gloomrought/Dark Ones storytelling that was such an iconic 4E element really fleshed out the rest of it. I'd argue that Shadowfell was also influenced by Shadowmoor, while the Feywild was influenced by Lorwyn and the Elemental Chaos by Alara (all three blocks were releasing in the middle of 4E's design & development and release cycle. Though Innistrad and Eldraine would each emerge later to form more "pure" takes on the Shadowfell and Feywild respectively, as their own unique non-echo planes in MtG lore.

In -MY- D&D games, I consider the Ethereal to be of an elemental nature – by analogy to my Primordial Chaos being like a Quantum Realm Scale and my Astral Sea being like Intergalactic Scale; the Ethereal Plane is a sort of magical blue mists of wonky time and space that bridge the gap between the chaotic quantum madness of elemental waveforms and the more solid reality of the Material where enough waves are clumping up and interfering and entangling to become real matter with a real spacetime. And then at the huge scales of the Astral Sea, it starts to go cray again but in the opposite ways because we're dealing with immortals of unfathamoble sizes and lifespans, whose bodies are literally the plane(t)s around which the Wildspace systems spin.

So for me, the Ethereal really needs to be Elemental.

But I'd note that in D&D 5E assumptions, the Ethereal is ALSO connected to the Astral via those Deep Ethereal storms that cadn send you shooting up into the Astral Sea. So if you're doing a variant of the World Axis cosmology like I prefer, you may need to either jettison this idea or consider it as a sort of backdoor around the Material or as an exception that proves the rule.

I'd argue the reason it's not considered Elemental by the rules as a default is because of Sacred Cows attaching it to Incorporeal Undead.

 

[Paul Farquhar]

I vaguely remember cerebral parasites living on the ethereal plane.

Original Spelljammer’s phlogiston is closer to a historic idea of the aether, but this was cut from the game as it really didn’t need a third transitive plane, especially one based on and alternative take of something already in the game.

If you wanted to do something closer to real world concepts I would strip out the Gygaxian Ethereal and replace it with the Phlogiston based cosmology from original Spelljammer. Then you have phlo as your fifth element and phlo elementals inhabiting the space.

Shunt ghosts over to the Astral plane.

 

[Corinnguard]

The rules are surprisingly incomplete: there is no Ethereal creature type.

Yet. A couple years ago, there was a Kickstarter for a 5e book from Tabletop Games called Book of Spirits: An Ethereal Supplement for 5e.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/beyondthescreen/book-of-spirits-an-ethereal-supplement-for-5e

This Kickstarter was backed by 2,933 people and raised about $224,142. I am expecting to receive the physical book sometime soon.

 

[Hriston]

Creatures of the Ethereal Plane are what's commonly referred to as "spirits" (i.e. disembodied spirits, because they lack materiality), whether they be fey spirits, elemental spirits, or undead spirits. D&D doesn't have a single creature type for these. As for a fifth type of elemental, in my games, there are void elementals, but they're most strongly associated with/native to the Negative Plane.

 

[DEFCON 1]

They aren't of the 'elemental' type because the printed books do not have that printed in their stats. And that appears to be the most important thing to most players-- what is printed in black and white in the books. Even if they could change it to something else they'd prefer or add a new type or whatever... that "doesn't count". If WotC prints it, then it's true.

Goblins are 'fey' now and apparently we have to just deal and accept this travesty. Even though we could (and do) just easily ignore that tag... nope, by a lot of people's standards that just the way it is and it sucks and WotC sucks and they're stupid for doing it, but we don't have any choice. Goblins are fey creatures cause that's what the book says. Which means by the same token... ethereal creatures have no creature type and we just have to accept that reality.

 

[Misanthrope Prime]

Creatures of the Ethereal Plane are what's commonly referred to as "spirits" (i.e. disembodied spirits, because they lack materiality), whether they be fey spirits, elemental spirits, or undead spirits. D&D doesn't have a single creature type for these. As for a fifth type of elemental, in my games, there are void elementals, but they're most strongly associated with/native to the Negative Plane.

A Wine Weird is technically a "spirit elemental."

 

[Corinnguard]

A Wine Weird is technically a "spirit elemental."

One of several and they all love hanging out in your liquor cabinet.

Edit: Why hasn't anybody homebrewed a Wine Weird for D&D?