D&D 5E (2024) Power sources to disambiguate the 5e spellcaster classes

Doublechecking the 2024 Bard class, Magical Secrets is at level 10. At this point, when a Bard prepares new spells, they can also choose them from the spell lists of arcane Wizard, divine Cleric, and primal Druid. Importantly, these imported spells count as if on the Bard spell list.

In the case of the psionic Bard, the soul is intuiting how these other spell casting techniques work, then casting these spell effects psionically. All of these spells are psionic. The Bard would normally employ an expressive Verbal component to cast them (regardless of how other classes cast them).


Conceptually, the psionic Bard would be able to cast a spell without any components, but perhaps such might require a successful Insight skill check to focus the mental intention clearly enough, without the self-expression. Perhaps a failure might waste the spell slot, grant advantage versus its saves, cast an unintended spell instead, or even some kind of mishap, if the system worked elegantly enough.
 
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Can you speak more as to how the 2024 Bard is "clearly psionic" considering there's no mention of that in the books?

You have to run with @Yaarel 's definitions or none of this works.

As to the OP, its not bad. I do believe Psionic has a place, but Warlock needs to be its own little thing, since its not actually the Warlocks power, IMO.
 

In an update Dark Sun the sorcerers should be primal, at least as option. There was a variant of divine sorcerer in "the complete champion".

I didn't like 4ed very much, but the idea of primal source was wellcome.

I miss the psions because I like to feel my PC is different and today the D&D wizards are relatively standards. I like the concept of ardent class, a psionic manifester who worships some divine power, and suffering a hard relation with the rest of divine spellcasters.
 

Can you speak more as to how the 2024 Bard is "clearly psionic" considering there's no mention of that in the books?
The Bard does psionic effects − mind effects, shapeshifting, being "psychic" − in a psionic way − personal self-expression.

The 2014 core didnt talk much about "psionic" for the same reason it didnt talk much about "primal". In 2024, the concepts of psionic and primal are present, but only in flavor text. There is no formal mention of "power sources". Instead, 2024 refers to the spell lists of three full spellcasters, Wizard, Druid, and Cleric, implying that they are the exemplars of the arcane, primal, and divine power sources, respectively. When a full-caster Psion happens, it too will likely be implied to be an exemplar of the psionic power source.

The 2024 Bard is ambiguously arcane, primal, and-or divine. But it is defacto a psionic class that accesses the other power sources psionically.
 

As to the OP, its not bad. I do believe Psionic has a place, but Warlock needs to be its own little thing, since its not actually the Warlocks power, IMO.
Elaborate? Are you saying, the "power source" of the Warlock is the patron? Therefor it is whatever power source the patron is using?

By making all the patrons be Astral, the divine power source applies. And the Astral Plane as a realm of ideals is highly diverse and versatile. For example, the Cleric can refer to unrelated "domains", since different themes are possible.
 

Notice the gishes:

Arcane gish: Alchemist.
Divine gish: Paladin.
Psionic gish: Barbarian?
Primal gish: Ranger.

The Barbarian is magical, but not a spellcaster. Probably, by definition, a gish must be a part-caster with spells. In any case, the following explores if the Barbarian or something like it would function as a "psionic gish".

2024 flavors Barbarian with "primal", but it can be understood as psionic. In the Norse context, the berserkar are psionic. They do go out into the wildereness to commune with animals in nature, but it is in order to become an animal mind − and body. They are shapeshifters, typically a specific animal. The boundaries between humans and other animals are blurry and porous.

Barbarian Rage is a mental effect, and the use of Constitution for AC connotes metamorphosis. It can easily be psionic magic.

In any case, psionic and primal are two sides of the same coin. Psionic is the power of ones own soul. Primal is the power of the souls of the nature beings across the Material Plane. In this primal sense, the mountain is a soul, and so on. Again, animals are blurry. The main difference between psionic and primal is thematic emphasis. Psionic is personal, individual, and feels human. Primal is relational, communal, and feels elemental. In this context, plants are aspects of elemental souls, like the branches of Yggdrasill being the domeshape of the sky, and forests growing from the earth like hair. For D&D, it helps organizationally to treat plantlife as if a living element made out of the other elements.

For the 2024 Barbarian, the Berserker subclass is also psionic. The magic is subtle, and doesnt actually shapeshift. It would be nice to somehow have an alternate Beast form and travel ethereally. To be fair, there are also Norse stories about these subtle kinds Berserkr warriors, in addition to the ones that are overtly magical.

The World Tree Barbarian subclass is definitely primal, despite its reference to the Astral Plane and its "Outer Planes". Properly, Norse Yggdrasill is the concept that the universe (the Material Plane) is a single living organism. It flourishes and withers with the cycle of seasons, and interconnects everything to everything. It has three roots, which shamanic trances utilize for outofbody journeys. One root goes directly north to the North Pole, and from there downward to the underground. Another root goes south and east to the location of the sunrise, then up into the sky, and another goes south and west to the location of the sunset identified with the þursar, dangerous but magically knowledgeable land nature beings. The branches are sky. Apparently, the location of the trunk of this tree is subjectively near any grave and at the center of the round horizon. The concept of the world tree is a blend of Sámi polar-axis shamanic traditions and Norse tree-burial traditions. Yggdrasill is the Material Plane, and perhaps there is a literal tree visible from the Ethereal overlap. That said, it might plausible to say "some of the tips of the branches and roots reach the Astral Plane". To disassociate the mind-soul from the body-soul, one shamanic technique is to visualize the death of the body, and the body as a corpse. The hypnotic mental perspective can then adopt an alternative concept of self, and elsewhere. Via this shamanic meditative self-visualization, the being of the sky "sacrificed himself to himself" by hanging himself on the worldtree. This can be characterized as self-transcending mode of cognition. While free from the body and the world, he intuited the nature of the written language of the runic alphabet. This linguistics that underpins and constructs the experience of the reality, feels "Astral" in the D&D sense, and the world tree is a journeyway to this experience. Nevertheless, the World Tree Barbarian subclass has teleportation features, without planeshifting, thus feels appropriately Material, animistic, shamanic, and primal.

The Wild Heart subclass self-identifies as a member of a family "kin" of animals. The text expicitly flavors "primal powers", which is fine, since it also emphasizes the community of animal souls. A more psionic emphasis might be the personal metamorphosis into an individual animal, mentally and physically. A shapeshifter.

The Zealot subclass is clearly the divine power source, referring to theism and "priests", and the "ecstatic" experience of Astral influences. Even if the Barbarian is a psionic gish, it is ok to have subclasses belonging to other power sources. The martial Fighter has subclasses that include arcane and psionic, for example.

If the Barbarian is to be psionic, other subclasses might emphasize this. One of the subclasses might a spellcaster. But also, a Barbarian subclass seems a helpful location for a "shapeshifter class". The concept of shapeshifting is simple enough, perhaps even a single spell. But a subclass can more fully express it, and scale it well into higher levels. This shapeshifter Barbarian might emphasize the flavor of psionic metamorphosis. Perhaps there is a favored alternate shape, but other shapes are also possible, and medial transitional shapes in between.


For the arcane gish, the Alchemist. I like the alchemical flavor, it is spot on for "arcane". I would like to see it more like the Ranger, where some subclasses have a "pet" but the class itself doesnt. I would also like to see a more Paladin-esque arcane warrior, like Eldritch Knight but more overtly magical, and moving swiftly in alchemical heavy armor.
 
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