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Are ELADRIN attribute bonuses the MOST USELESS?
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<blockquote data-quote="Seolfor" data-source="post: 4355466" data-attributes="member: 72052"><p>Valid point about the bonus to initiative with DEX (that INT doesnt provide). And, i overlooked the +1 to Will Saves .. the designers clearly did take notice.</p><p> </p><p>BUT .... </p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p>No - youre wrong, so cry out all you want .. hehe, first, calm down. </p><p> </p><p>Second here's WHY youre wrong - Yes, in the absolute sense, were talking about a TINY +2 attribute difference (or +1 bonus difference). But the question is NOT of the absolute difference ... E.g. The difference between a 16 INT Eladrin and a 18 INT ELF is NOT a tiny +2 to attributes. Its a significant ELEVEN points in a 22 point-buy system .... Your race and class choice is effecting 50% of your point-buy .... would you call that TINY?</p><p> </p><p>Further, once youve created your character, for the same reason as above, the +1 to two attributes, which you get on every 4ish levels, SENSE would demand you allocate them to your highest two stats. </p><p> </p><p>Hence, once a class/race is selected, your two important stats are going to define your character's efficiency for MOST of your adventure lifetime. Now ofcourse, Role-playing sub-optimal builds is not exactly a crime, so this isnt to say that NO ONE should play Eladrins as anything but Wizards!</p><p> </p><p>But from a balance perspective, dont belittle the +2 bonuses that the various races get ...</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Seolfor, post: 4355466, member: 72052"] Valid point about the bonus to initiative with DEX (that INT doesnt provide). And, i overlooked the +1 to Will Saves .. the designers clearly did take notice. BUT .... No - youre wrong, so cry out all you want .. hehe, first, calm down. Second here's WHY youre wrong - Yes, in the absolute sense, were talking about a TINY +2 attribute difference (or +1 bonus difference). But the question is NOT of the absolute difference ... E.g. The difference between a 16 INT Eladrin and a 18 INT ELF is NOT a tiny +2 to attributes. Its a significant ELEVEN points in a 22 point-buy system .... Your race and class choice is effecting 50% of your point-buy .... would you call that TINY? Further, once youve created your character, for the same reason as above, the +1 to two attributes, which you get on every 4ish levels, SENSE would demand you allocate them to your highest two stats. Hence, once a class/race is selected, your two important stats are going to define your character's efficiency for MOST of your adventure lifetime. Now ofcourse, Role-playing sub-optimal builds is not exactly a crime, so this isnt to say that NO ONE should play Eladrins as anything but Wizards! But from a balance perspective, dont belittle the +2 bonuses that the various races get ... [/QUOTE]
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