Are gamers too sharp for movies?

[kkoie]

Oh, you mean that. Didn't really change much about the storyline
really, so I don't consider it a real twist, but merely expanding
upon the preexisting story.

A twist IMO is a revelation that everything you've been lead to
believe until that point in the movie/book/whatever was wrong in
some way.

Well each has their own opinion on what twists are. For me it is considered a twist because it changes your perception of the story, once you realise whats really going on, and where the place is really located.

 

[Robbert Raets]

...the trailer for TTT had one of the biggest trailer spoilers in movie history - Gandalf alive.

Yeah. And here I've been biting my tongue to stop myself from giving that one away. Bunch of Wan.... Chicken-Pluckers.

 

[Silver Moon]

the trailer for TTT had one of the biggest trailer spoilers in movie history - Gandalf alive.

But it could have been a flashback. One of the trailers also showed Arwen, and that was a flashback.

 

[Dark Psion]

My only problem is when the characters in the movie are unnecessarily stupid.

I picked up Harry Potter & the Chamber of Secrets this week and knew exactly what the guardian monster was immediately, but it took wizards, who live in a world of magical creatures, the whole movie to figure it out (and even then it was the kids that figure it out).

One reason why I loved The Mummy was the one scene where he pulls out the cat to turn the mummy, only a gamer would be smart enougth (or daring enougth) to grab the cat on the way in.

 

[WizarDru]

I picked up Harry Potter & the Chamber of Secrets this week and knew exactly what the guardian monster was immediately, but it took wizards, who live in a world of magical creatures, the whole movie to figure it out (and even then it was the kids that figure it out).

I'm assuming you're referring to the movie, not the book? In the book, there's quite a few reasons why the teachers never cotton to the monster...but the fact is that they don't have all the information that we, as the audience, has. Even in the movie, you can easily assume the teachers have information they clearly don't have, and then assume they're just not thinking. Since the movie streamlines some events (and leaves others in that probably could have been sacrificed), it's easy to miss some of the subtext of what's going on. In the Harry Potter books, as the readership ages (and the characters), they become more privy to what is and has actually been going on. A lot of the political conflict really doesn't become as evident until the third and particularly the fourth book, as the kids are then being pulled into the actual conflict that their parents have, for the most part, shielded them from. Malfoy's father in the second movie is part of this.


As to gamers being more clever than other movie goers, I don't see it. I knew there was a twist coming at the end of the Sixth Sense....and it still punched me in the gut when it happened. It took a basic assumption that I'd had the whole movie...and threw it out. The Usual Suspects and Fight Club were the same way. Because the movie was good enough that I stopped caring about a plot twist, and more about what was happening right then. A movie like Heist, on the other hand, just keeps you guessing about who knows what, and what's going to happen next. I think that Jemal has it right: many people with that kind of mindset become gamers...gamer themselves aren't inherently more clever about movie plots than anyone else.

And quite frankly, a plot twist or unexpected event doesn't make a movie good or bad...it's just an element. I don't watch 'Robin Hood', 'Roman Holiday', 'Destroy All Monsters' or 'On the Town' to be suprised...I watch it to be entertained.

 

[Henry]

But it could have been a flashback. One of the trailers also showed Arwen, and that was a flashback.

...except for the voiceover that said, "...I have come back to you now - at the turn of the tide."

But it was still fun. Spoilers for the LOTR movies aren't as bad to me, because the stories have been around for almost 50 years now, and can be public knowledge easily. However, it would be nice to have SOME surprises in it.

The sad part for me is that going to see the LOTR movies has been my Christmas gift to my gaming group and their families for the past two years now. (I've taken about 15 people to see each one.) The tradition will be over after this year.

 

[Mustrum_Ridcully]

I am not sure, but I believe me and my father both can guess twists quite well. My father isn`t a gamer, though, but he is police officer, so it might explain something

Many moves in movies seem to be predictable to me, but I don`t know if it is because I am a gamer - I think it might, as someone else already said, be the other way around.

Mustrum Ridcully

 

[Mark]

I'm more an more convinced that gamers seem to see through weaker "hidden twists" than the general public. Perhaps not because they are gamers (though that experience may have some effect) but moreso because the type of people that also tend to be attracted to games. *shrug*

Maybe we should gather a list of these and other movies that have twists and start a poll that allows people to vote for the ones that DID fool them? (Or something along those lines...) Any other thoughts on this?

 

[mojo1701]

****Possible Star Trek Nemesis Spoiler****





Well, what really threw me in it when Data fired the phaser at the energy beam at the end, which caused the Scimitar to explode





****End Spoiler****

That really threw me off my seat. It even shut that guy up behind me who kept on pointing out everything to his partner...

 

[Dark Psion]

I'm assuming you're referring to the movie, not the book? In the book, there's quite a few reasons why the teachers never cotton to the monster...but the fact is that they don't have all the information that we, as the audience, has. Even in the movie, you can easily assume the teachers have information they clearly don't have, and then assume they're just not thinking. Since the movie streamlines some events (and leaves others in that probably could have been sacrificed), it's easy to miss some of the subtext of what's going on. In the Harry Potter books, as the readership ages (and the characters), they become more privy to what is and has actually been going on. A lot of the political conflict really doesn't become as evident until the third and particularly the fourth book, as the kids are then being pulled into the actual conflict that their parents have, for the most part, shielded them from. Malfoy's father in the second movie is part of this.
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After finding this site, I am starting to realize that. Are the books in paperback yet?

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