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are Lions size Large?


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It's more than just "mass", it's also the space the creature takes in combat. A lion or tiger can fight effectivelly (and in fact prefer to fight) in close-quarters, drawing prey to themselves, instead of keeping them at bay.

And? That description applies to dang near every large creature.

In the case of lions or tigers, large size also helps represent the potential area they threaten - again I point you to how large creatures are handled in 3.5 vs. 3.0.
 

And? That description applies to dang near every large creature.

In the case of lions or tigers, large size also helps represent the potential area they threaten - again I point you to how large creatures are handled in 3.5 vs. 3.0.
Rhinos, bulls and moose are examples of Large creatures that prefer to bat their enemies around, instead of pulling them in.
 

From my understanding, rhinos prefer to bite/stomp and bulls will charge and then try to bite/kick/stomp.

No idea about moose, but I imagine it'd be the same - batting enemies around cartoon style would be a huge expenditure of energy/calories, when maybe an initial charge followed by biting/stomping/kicking would be more efficient, I think.

But let's say you're right - you're arguing further that the squares threatened by a Large creature in part represent the space it can cover to attack - after all, assuming that they could/did bat a foe around, it's unlikely that they'd go straight up in the air and land right where they were.

But from what I can tell, they're just like the other Large creatures mentioned - they like to "fight effectivelly (and in fact prefer to fight) in close-quarters, drawing prey to themselves, instead of keeping them at bay."
 

Just make them medium, with stats for a slightly bigger "Large" version. I mean, obviously we can see that there are lions of different sizes. Most would be medium.
 

I think the best suggestion was earlier: make male lions large and female lions medium.

That could make for a fun encounter with Dire versions...

I'd probably male and female tigers large.
 

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