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Are Paladins Merely Mediocre Multiclass Fighter/Clerics?
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<blockquote data-quote="Minigiant" data-source="post: 9244227" data-attributes="member: 63508"><p>That's because WOTC is lame and doesn't pull from sources that have nature magic warriors like comics and anime. No Iceman's armor or Wolverine Regen. No Kiba's giant dogs or Shigechi's Havest. Ranger magic is <strong>untapped</strong></p><p></p><p>I see at least 2 more primal classes.</p><p></p><p>One class that is primarily a pet class. The beast companion is a shamanic spirit that gets the bonuses of class and subclass features. The humaniod casts spells to heal and buff it and most stands back</p><p></p><p>Then you have another wisdom class that is much like the druid in the d&D movie. A Wildshape spammer. Tougher than a moon druid with options to Dragonshape or Giantshape via subclass.</p><p></p><p></p><p>More like the 3e Psion.</p><p></p><p>A caster special spells that have different additions when you upcast them. Like having the Metamagician attached the the spell.</p><p></p><p>Like Far Hand levitates items. But if upcasted you can increase the range, strength, or make it and attack for each level upcasted.</p><p></p><p>So 1 spell known is more like 4 spells.</p><p></p><p>I mean a divine version of the wizard. You copy spells to your prayer book, use Intelligence, and collect scrolls.</p><p></p><p>But since you use a weaker spell list, you can do stuff the is op in the hand of wizards. Like swap spells on short rest. Or create spells with alterations and copy them to your prayer book. Or learn paladin spells.</p><p></p><p>Basically remember that OP version of the wizard in the playtest with Memorize and Create Spell. Make it use the divine spell list instead.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Was thinking more like a divine warlock really. </p><p></p><p>Spamming Sun strike and divine bolt while concentrating on Spirit Guardian.</p><p></p><p>I'd love a Warlockish Short Rest caster for Divine, Primal, and Psionic spell lists.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Duskblade or Swordmage. Like greenflame and booming blades.</p><p></p><p>Arcane spells made for a warrior.</p><p></p><p></p><p>That's only because the D&D designers are, I can't say uncreative, but like you said unwilling to create new material and themes unless forced .</p><p></p><p>They halfway do anything they are not enthusiastic about. Barbarian, Sorcerer, Monk, and Ranger were seriously undercooked.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Minigiant, post: 9244227, member: 63508"] That's because WOTC is lame and doesn't pull from sources that have nature magic warriors like comics and anime. No Iceman's armor or Wolverine Regen. No Kiba's giant dogs or Shigechi's Havest. Ranger magic is [B]untapped[/B] I see at least 2 more primal classes. One class that is primarily a pet class. The beast companion is a shamanic spirit that gets the bonuses of class and subclass features. The humaniod casts spells to heal and buff it and most stands back Then you have another wisdom class that is much like the druid in the d&D movie. A Wildshape spammer. Tougher than a moon druid with options to Dragonshape or Giantshape via subclass. More like the 3e Psion. A caster special spells that have different additions when you upcast them. Like having the Metamagician attached the the spell. Like Far Hand levitates items. But if upcasted you can increase the range, strength, or make it and attack for each level upcasted. So 1 spell known is more like 4 spells. I mean a divine version of the wizard. You copy spells to your prayer book, use Intelligence, and collect scrolls. But since you use a weaker spell list, you can do stuff the is op in the hand of wizards. Like swap spells on short rest. Or create spells with alterations and copy them to your prayer book. Or learn paladin spells. Basically remember that OP version of the wizard in the playtest with Memorize and Create Spell. Make it use the divine spell list instead. Was thinking more like a divine warlock really. Spamming Sun strike and divine bolt while concentrating on Spirit Guardian. I'd love a Warlockish Short Rest caster for Divine, Primal, and Psionic spell lists. Duskblade or Swordmage. Like greenflame and booming blades. Arcane spells made for a warrior. That's only because the D&D designers are, I can't say uncreative, but like you said unwilling to create new material and themes unless forced . They halfway do anything they are not enthusiastic about. Barbarian, Sorcerer, Monk, and Ranger were seriously undercooked. [/QUOTE]
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