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Are single class martials still going to be viable in 2024?
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<blockquote data-quote="Minigiant" data-source="post: 9434482" data-attributes="member: 63508"><p>You are slowing down the attacks. </p><p></p><p>Especially in a game where people barely get too level 12.</p><p></p><p>Since 3e, D&D has been a tier based game. You gotta hit your tier quota.</p><p></p><p>And that's the thing If you're playing in a high optimization game what you're trying to abuse multclassing, The single class characters are hitting their tiered powers faster than you and have more resources to boost their power.</p><p></p><p>Multicasting with a primary weapon user before level 6 is a trap unless you're using some specialized cheese build. </p><p></p><p>Extra attack is too powerful to delay because that time around level 5 is when DMs can go pull out monsters that also have similarly strong Tier 2 abilities.</p><p></p><p></p><p>It depends on how important that extra unarmed strike bonus action is What you gave up to utilize it </p><p></p><p>A dual-wheeler can do wield and eventually get dual there and get what they would have got with the monk dip <strong>without</strong> slowing their class progression </p><p></p><p>That's why it's not <strong>as</strong> good anymore because you have to now pump up your wisdom to do something that you can spend a feet eventually on.</p><p></p><p>You get a powerful level 2 but you eventually get surpassed by the single class until the singer class plateaus which is usually in the teens.</p><p></p><p>It's the old prestige class problem of 3rd edition but worse. Because instead of extremely powerful prestige classes, you get a gimmick that doesn't progress and are hoping the stacking with the parts you delay is worth it</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Minigiant, post: 9434482, member: 63508"] You are slowing down the attacks. Especially in a game where people barely get too level 12. Since 3e, D&D has been a tier based game. You gotta hit your tier quota. And that's the thing If you're playing in a high optimization game what you're trying to abuse multclassing, The single class characters are hitting their tiered powers faster than you and have more resources to boost their power. Multicasting with a primary weapon user before level 6 is a trap unless you're using some specialized cheese build. Extra attack is too powerful to delay because that time around level 5 is when DMs can go pull out monsters that also have similarly strong Tier 2 abilities. It depends on how important that extra unarmed strike bonus action is What you gave up to utilize it A dual-wheeler can do wield and eventually get dual there and get what they would have got with the monk dip [B]without[/B] slowing their class progression That's why it's not [B]as[/B] good anymore because you have to now pump up your wisdom to do something that you can spend a feet eventually on. You get a powerful level 2 but you eventually get surpassed by the single class until the singer class plateaus which is usually in the teens. It's the old prestige class problem of 3rd edition but worse. Because instead of extremely powerful prestige classes, you get a gimmick that doesn't progress and are hoping the stacking with the parts you delay is worth it [/QUOTE]
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