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Message: <blockquote data-quote="FrogReaver" data-source="post: 9434603" data-attributes="member: 6795602">Till I can actually get the rules in front of me and then easily crunch some numbers I’m not to keen on optimization. That said.  You really have to do a level by level. An extra d6+mod attack is probably better than action surge at all but the highest levels and an asi until level 5 (a few feats may be better).  For subclass features it depends on subclass but I’d prefer the Battlemaster manuevers over the d6+mod bonus action attack. Extra attack at 5th is obviously better. 6th is a toss up.  ASI can be better. Just depends on specifics. 7th is in multiclass favor8th is again a tossup9th I’d give to solo fighter.  Indiminatable is actually good now. 10th multiclassed is better11th solo is better. Personally I’d give levels 3, 5 and 9, 11 to the single classes fighter. I’d give levels 2, 4, 7, 10 to the monk dip fighter. The other levels I’d call even. The thing is the single class fighter is much better at the levels he is better than the monk dipped fighter is.</blockquote>