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Are single class martials still going to be viable in 2024?
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<blockquote data-quote="EzekielRaiden" data-source="post: 9434641" data-attributes="member: 6790260"><p>At least on this, the new Pact of the Blade is as the OP says. I have a Warlock with that pact and can use a summoned great sword as my pact weapon. It's really quite nice, though I have to be careful because I'm squishier than our Fighter or Barbarian.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Do you have a screengrab or cite for that? Because what I'm seeing doesn't say that. It still only applies to one bonded weapon.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Okay? I don't see how this is somehow an insanely powerful option. It has its uses. It isn't suddenly the end of the world for single-classed martial characters.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Okay. I think you're still massively over-valuing things.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Alright. It doesn't come across that way, what with the question about whether single-class characters are "still viable" or not.</p><p></p><p></p><p>I still think it requires more levels to get really good things. Blade Pact being level 1 is no different from Hexblade being level 1, except that you can change your bonded weapon as a Bonus action, rather than once a day in the morning. The Bonus action cost still means it would be inferior to just making an attack or doing some other thing during your turn.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Yesss...and Weapon Masteries <strong><em>are a power-up for pure martial characters.</em></strong> That's the whole point. You're acting like these things are somehow a punishment for single-class characters when they emphatically are not.</p><p></p><p></p><p>And something you had to dip for, which weakens and delays various features. You are ignoring all the costs and focusing solely on the benefits.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Except that you had to delay ki, the critical resource you desperately need, amongst other things. It isn't nearly as amazing as you make it sound. It <em>is</em> useful, yes. It is not suddenly making single-class Monks non-"viable."</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="EzekielRaiden, post: 9434641, member: 6790260"] At least on this, the new Pact of the Blade is as the OP says. I have a Warlock with that pact and can use a summoned great sword as my pact weapon. It's really quite nice, though I have to be careful because I'm squishier than our Fighter or Barbarian. Do you have a screengrab or cite for that? Because what I'm seeing doesn't say that. It still only applies to one bonded weapon. Okay? I don't see how this is somehow an insanely powerful option. It has its uses. It isn't suddenly the end of the world for single-classed martial characters. Okay. I think you're still massively over-valuing things. Alright. It doesn't come across that way, what with the question about whether single-class characters are "still viable" or not. I still think it requires more levels to get really good things. Blade Pact being level 1 is no different from Hexblade being level 1, except that you can change your bonded weapon as a Bonus action, rather than once a day in the morning. The Bonus action cost still means it would be inferior to just making an attack or doing some other thing during your turn. Yesss...and Weapon Masteries [B][I]are a power-up for pure martial characters.[/I][/B] That's the whole point. You're acting like these things are somehow a punishment for single-class characters when they emphatically are not. And something you had to dip for, which weakens and delays various features. You are ignoring all the costs and focusing solely on the benefits. Except that you had to delay ki, the critical resource you desperately need, amongst other things. It isn't nearly as amazing as you make it sound. It [I]is[/I] useful, yes. It is not suddenly making single-class Monks non-"viable." [/QUOTE]
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