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<blockquote data-quote="ECMO3" data-source="post: 9436199" data-attributes="member: 7030563">I would disagree.&nbsp; Assuming battlemaster and strength/heavy weapon build (which is far from optimal in 2024).Level 6:&nbsp; I think you are behind at level 6 because when you consider batttlemaster maneuvers; GWM+martial arts with reposit beats PAM+GWM.&nbsp; The same point you made at level 3 (which I generally agreed with) comes back and bites you here at level 6 - your reaction attacks are not as big a deal because I can make them anyway if I am missed and I do more damage on both my action and my bonus action.Level 7:&nbsp; You are well behind at level 7 as the multiclass has both feats now and is doing more damage.Level 8:&nbsp; At level 8 you are still behind because you are doing less damage.Level 9 you have indomitable vs not having indomitable and doing more damage.&nbsp; I think this is situationally better, but could go either way.So 6-7 out of 10 levels you are behind IMO.&nbsp; Keep in mind also this is a build specifically optimized to NOT multiclass.&nbsp; If we actually optmize with Vex-Nick multiclass build outruns it by a mile.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="ECMO3, post: 9436199, member: 7030563"] I would disagree. Assuming battlemaster and strength/heavy weapon build (which is far from optimal in 2024). Level 6: I think you are behind at level 6 because when you consider batttlemaster maneuvers; GWM+martial arts with reposit beats PAM+GWM. The same point you made at level 3 (which I generally agreed with) comes back and bites you here at level 6 - your reaction attacks are not as big a deal because I can make them anyway if I am missed and I do more damage on both my action and my bonus action. Level 7: You are well behind at level 7 as the multiclass has both feats now and is doing more damage. Level 8: At level 8 you are still behind because you are doing less damage. Level 9 you have indomitable vs not having indomitable and doing more damage. I think this is situationally better, but could go either way. So 6-7 out of 10 levels you are behind IMO. Keep in mind also this is a build specifically optimized to NOT multiclass. If we actually optmize with Vex-Nick multiclass build outruns it by a mile. [/QUOTE]

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