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Message: <blockquote data-quote="FrogReaver" data-source="post: 9436216" data-attributes="member: 6795602">I've been crunching numbers this evening and it seems pretty dang optimal for melee damage in 2024.MA, GWM, Graze  (7+4+3)+(7+4+3)+(3.5+4) = 35.5*.6 + .4*4*2 = 24.5I'd estimate the GWM bonus attack procs about 35% of the time for +2.275 DPR = 26.8GWM, PAM, Graze  (5.5+4+3)+(5.5+4+3)+(2.5+4+3) = 34.5*.6 + .4*4*3 = 25.5I'd estimate the GWM bonus attack procs about 35% of the time for +1 DPR = 26.5The Battlemaster manuevers will slightly favor the non-PAM build (+1.5 damage pre accuracy adjustment per maneuver divided by the number of rounds in the period, probably yields about a +.5 DPR increase).  However, the reaction attack is the big variable and since the DPR is going to be so close it won't take a very high proc rate to push this over.  Something like 2 reaction attacks per short rest from PAM is likely enough to put the PAM version in the lead ever so slightly.Nearly all that was factored in up above.  It's easy to make platitudes, but when actually calculating much of that stuff is extremely minor gains, that are easily offset.What feat are you choosing?  I'm presuming +2 Str to max out your str at 20?Should be back to virtually the same situation as at level 6 as the PAM gets a feat like sentinel, which in addition to putting str at 20 also has an amazing tactical effect and combo with PAM, as well as providing a few more reaction attacks that the MA version does not get.What feat are you taking here to increase your damage, i'm not really seeing any offensive ones that really benefit your character at this point?  Match sentinel feat maybe so you can at least assume more equal reaction attacks?  I really don't know what else you might choose?If you go TWF-Vex-Nick there is absolutely no point in the monk level as the only real damage feat you can take is dual wielder.And from the numbers above, it's no where near 6-7 out of 10 levels behind.</blockquote>

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