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Message: <blockquote data-quote="ECMO3" data-source="post: 9436488" data-attributes="member: 7030563">I don't think it is close to optimal even on a single class build and the numbers above are not correct.My understanding is you do not get a GWM damage bonus on either your bonus action attack or your reaction attack.  What I have read of the GWM feat is that it only applies to the attacks that occur using the attack action.  So the PAM bonus action on PAM-GWM is 2.5+4, not 2.5+4+3 and you also do not get GWM on your reaction attack or your hew attack.This is a big reason GWM-PAM is outclassed in general by other styles IMO, not just in this example.  IF you got GWM with all your attacks it would be way different.RAW I think the highest damage in a single class before level 11 RAW is going to involve a lot of weapon switching, dropping and drawing different weapons with the Dual wielding feat.  I think it is going to be something like:  Attack with Greataxe-Cleave-Drop great axe-draw scimitar-draw and attack with shortsword (vex), Nick with scimitar (nick)- drop both weapons-Dual Wielding bonus action draw and attack with a Versatile Longsword or Warhammer.This crazyness aside, I think just basic light weapons with nick and the dual wielder feat is going to beat GWM-PAM by quite a bit.Then use the exact  same feats GWM-PAM.  You are just only using the PAM for the reaction since martial arts does more damage than the PAM bonus action attack.Switching from a 2d6 to a d10 weapon drops damage by 3DPR drop in damage from level 6 to level 7 to get the reaction attack, it also  drops damage on your Hew attack when you get it.Maybe that is worth it, maybe not but this makes it an easy comparison - same weapon, same strength, same opportunities and number of attacks and slightly more damageThey both can get Sentinel, and the multiclass is still doing more damage with their bonus action.What I used in the earlier post was GWM only with a better weapon meaning more damage.   I think in general PAM-GWM with a d10 weapon is going to be substantially worse than GWM with a 2d6 weapon and martial arts and I can show clearly that the latter is doing more damage on your turn (over 4 more DPR) with or without sentinel.But whether it is outright better relies heavily on the value and frequency of your PAM reaction attacks as compared to that extra damage you do on your turn and the frequency of Sentinel attacks.  More Sentinel attacks or fewer reactions overall would favor not using a pole arm (even if with the feat)</blockquote>

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