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<blockquote data-quote="Oofta" data-source="post: 7998311" data-attributes="member: 6801845">I simply find &quot;Make a dexterity ability check with your proficiency modifier and any other possible modifications to stealth&quot; to be just a tad wordy.&nbsp; Because it's not just the ability modifier, it's the proficiency, possible expertise, magic items, spells and magical effects that could also come into play.&nbsp; On the other hand if I say &quot;make a stealth check&quot; people know what I'm asking for.&nbsp; It's much, much easier to tell a newbie to roll a D20 and add their skill bonus.&nbsp; I don't really care if the book ever calls it out, I'm running the game in a fashion that I think makes the most sense and is easiest to understand for my players.But this horse was dead a long time ago.&nbsp; Have a good one!&nbsp; <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></blockquote>

[QUOTE="Oofta, post: 7998311, member: 6801845"] I simply find "Make a dexterity ability check with your proficiency modifier and any other possible modifications to stealth" to be just a [I]tad[/I] wordy. Because it's not just the ability modifier, it's the proficiency, possible expertise, magic items, spells and magical effects that could also come into play. On the other hand if I say "make a stealth check" people know what I'm asking for. It's much, much easier to tell a newbie to roll a D20 and add their skill bonus. I don't really care if the book ever calls it out, I'm running the game in a fashion that I think makes the most sense and is easiest to understand for my players. But this horse was dead a long time ago. Have a good one! :) [/QUOTE]

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