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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Charlaquin" data-source="post: 7998391" data-attributes="member: 6779196">No, there absolutely is a misunderstanding. If a DM is confused as to what roll to call for to resolve a task to which no skill is obviously applicable, clearly they have misunderstood the task resolution procedure. I believe this misunderstanding stems from conceptualizing skills rather than abilities as the most fundamental category of check. I don’t care what words they use to describe it, I am pointing out a tangible incongruity between the way they have conceptualized the task resolution system and the way it is designed to function.You’re the one who’s hung up on terminology here. I’m trying to tell you it’s not the fact that the OP called it a skill check I’m correcting, it’s the fact that their instinct is to call for a skill check first and an ability check only as a backup, rather than to call for an ability check first or a skill check if one seems appropriate (or better yet to just call for an ability check and let the player determine if they have an applicable proficiency, be it skill, tool, or other.) You seem to be so hung up on the fact that I am using the same language the book uses to express it that you are overlooking the actual content of my argument.That has not been my experience at all.That’s literally what is happening in this thread. I have also seen many, many players who are used to DMs calling for “skill checks” be confused as to how to apply their proficiency bonus to a check with an ability other than the one it is most typically tied to, which should not be a difficult concept to understand.</blockquote>

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