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<blockquote data-quote="iserith" data-source="post: 8001043" data-attributes="member: 97077"><p>As I mentioned upthread, it's in the section on Using Ability Scores in the PHB in the sidebar on Finding a Hidden Object, p. 178. "In most cases, you need to describe where you are looking in order for the DM to determine your chance of success... [hidden key in the bureau example]... You would have to specify that you were opening the drawers or searching the bureau in order to have any chance of success." If you don't, you have no chance of finding the key. What's also notable is that in the example, the player doesn't ask to make an ability check. The player just describes what he or she wants to do.</p><p></p><p>The only objection that could be made in my view is that "<em>my </em>game isn't 'most cases.'" And that would be <em>hilarious</em>.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="iserith, post: 8001043, member: 97077"] As I mentioned upthread, it's in the section on Using Ability Scores in the PHB in the sidebar on Finding a Hidden Object, p. 178. "In most cases, you need to describe where you are looking in order for the DM to determine your chance of success... [hidden key in the bureau example]... You would have to specify that you were opening the drawers or searching the bureau in order to have any chance of success." If you don't, you have no chance of finding the key. What's also notable is that in the example, the player doesn't ask to make an ability check. The player just describes what he or she wants to do. The only objection that could be made in my view is that "[I]my [/I]game isn't 'most cases.'" And that would be [I]hilarious[/I]. [/QUOTE]
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