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<blockquote data-quote="doctorbadwolf" data-source="post: 8001045" data-attributes="member: 6704184"><p>Yeah, sure. It's advice on running the game without making the game bog down. My objection was to a suggestion that the rules state that if they spend to minutes searching a room it just succeeds. Because the rules don't state that.</p><p></p><p>That...doesn't suggest that, though. "I search the furniture" is the same as "I search the bureau" unless the DM is being a gotcha-GM in the vein of "you didn't specify that you stepped around the plate (that the PC already found and IDd as a trap trigger) so you didn't step around it so the trap is sprung" type examples. If the DM described what furniture is in the room, then "the furniture" includes all the furniture the DM described.</p><p></p><p>Especially in my example wherein the player references investigating the room thoroughly. It would be completely unreasonable for the DM to reply "you don't find anything" because they didn't explicitly specificy each and every potentially searchable object in the room.</p><p></p><p></p><p>But what's more...an advise sidebar about a particular type of situation isn't...the rules? It's advice. For handling a type of situation that can sometimes become a roadblock for a lot of groups. Acting like it's The Rules, much less extrapolating what it suggests (to you) to all action resolution in the game, is...wild.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="doctorbadwolf, post: 8001045, member: 6704184"] Yeah, sure. It's advice on running the game without making the game bog down. My objection was to a suggestion that the rules state that if they spend to minutes searching a room it just succeeds. Because the rules don't state that. That...doesn't suggest that, though. "I search the furniture" is the same as "I search the bureau" unless the DM is being a gotcha-GM in the vein of "you didn't specify that you stepped around the plate (that the PC already found and IDd as a trap trigger) so you didn't step around it so the trap is sprung" type examples. If the DM described what furniture is in the room, then "the furniture" includes all the furniture the DM described. Especially in my example wherein the player references investigating the room thoroughly. It would be completely unreasonable for the DM to reply "you don't find anything" because they didn't explicitly specificy each and every potentially searchable object in the room. But what's more...an advise sidebar about a particular type of situation isn't...the rules? It's advice. For handling a type of situation that can sometimes become a roadblock for a lot of groups. Acting like it's The Rules, much less extrapolating what it suggests (to you) to all action resolution in the game, is...wild. [/QUOTE]
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