D&D General Are you content with what you have in DnD regarding physical/digital material?

[Blue]

Given the PHB contains some of the most powerful classes, spells, and feats, I'm not really sure power creep is the real problem here.

Let me see if I understand:

1. Currently the PHB has the most classes, spells and feats due to only moderate amounts of player-facing content coming out.

2. You posit that it also contains some of the most powerful classes, spells, and feats. Sure, I'll agree. Not exclusively, we've got some artificers, bladesinger, war wizards, new and revamped races, and more. Sure, I'll give that it has the most.

I am unsure how you get from there to the conclusion that more player-facing content can't cause power creep. We have 3.x as a historical example, but we have plenty of 5e examples that if they publish enough there will be power creep, like the Twilight Cleric or Silvery Barbs. It's already demonstrably so.

 

[Umbran]

For 5e, I have more than I am apt to need for the rest of my life.

If for some reason I picked up 5.5e seriously, I would need some more stuff.

 

[EzekielRaiden]

Let me see if I understand:

1. Currently the PHB has the most classes, spells and feats due to only moderate amounts of player-facing content coming out.

2. You posit that it also contains some of the most powerful classes, spells, and feats. Sure, I'll agree. Not exclusively, we've got some artificers, bladesinger, war wizards, new and revamped races, and more. Sure, I'll give that it has the most.

I am unsure how you get from there to the conclusion that more player-facing content can't cause power creep. We have 3.x as a historical example, but we have plenty of 5e examples that if they publish enough there will be power creep, like the Twilight Cleric or Silvery Barbs. It's already demonstrably so.

I was talking about 3.5e.

3.5e has the vast majority of its most insanely broken things right there in its PHB.

Splats were not a problem because of power creep. They were mostly a problem because the vast majority of stuff in them sucked, and most of what didn't suck required significant system mastery to use effectively.

5e? Silvery barbs was a tempest in a teapot, I still have no idea why folks got so bent out of shape about it. Bladesinger I'll also grant you, sure--there is SOME power creep in essentially all supplements eventually. But with at best one player-facing book a year, "power creep" barely applies at all.

More or less what I'm saying is, while power creep does sometimes occur, it is not guaranteed (there was exceedingly little power creep in 4e, for example), it is not the most significant problem with past editions that had lots of books, and even if it is a real concern it's a fixable concern, aka, demand the designers design better.

 

[el-remmen]

Do I need more D&D stuff? No.

Do I want more D&D stuff? Sure.
But only if I think it will be actually useful. So I try to fill the gaps on old modules and issues of Dungeon which is what I use to generate content for my 5e games almost exclusively. And despite owning over 1000 minis, I always buy (and actually paint) more because it is fun.

 

[Blue]

I was talking about 3.5e.

3.5e has the vast majority of its most insanely broken things right there in its PHB.Splats were not a problem because of power creep. They were mostly a problem because the vast majority of stuff in them sucked, and most of what didn't suck required significant system mastery to use effectively.

Sorry, all of the prestige classes that would do things like +1 casting and other stuff.

Sorry, the core books by themselves weren't particularly bad at all.

 

[Tigris]

Sorry, all of the prestige classes that would do things like +1 casting and other stuff.

Sorry, the core books by themselves weren't particularly bad at all.

The core books contain the 2 best classes druid and cleric as well as some of the weakest classes (monk and to alesser degree paladin, ranger fighter).


Things like +1 casting was in some instances needed for presrige classes to work (as in also counting as level of the main class).

 

[Blue]

The core books contain the 2 best classes druid and cleric as well as some of the weakest classes (monk and to alesser degree paladin, ranger fighter).

Sure. My contention is that a Cleric 20 or Druid 20 wasn't as powerful as someone with 19-20 levels of casting who also dipped into a bunch of prestige classes for more features than the base classes. Or that a Cleric 20 or Druid 20 who also had access to the spells from the splatbooks was more powerful than one who only had core spells.

The splatbooks contributed to power creep.

Things like +1 casting was in some instances needed for presrige classes to work (as in also counting as level of the main class).

Of course. That doesn't mean that they didn't also give good other features, either taking a lot of levels of them or just cherry picking.

 

[payn]

More of everything please.

 

[Burnside]

I definitely do not need more rules, but am always looking for the next great adventure. Can't vote in poll because first option combines the thing I really want with the thing I don't need at all.