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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Remathilis" data-source="post: 9130834" data-attributes="member: 7635">The problem with sorcerers in 2014 was threefold:1. You don't have enough spell choices for more than the two best spells of a given level.2. The sorcerer spell list is weak and geared towards blasting3. Sorcerer subclasses are highly thematic but the sorcerer list lacks sufficient choices and the sorcerer had too few choices to pick them when they did.They have fixed 1. You get more choices now. They have regressed on 2. when they abandoned the Arcane list which was full of support for different types of casters. And the 3. was fixed by clockwork, aberrant and lunar giving large bonus spells list that fill in the sorcerer list with spells not normally on the sorcerer list. So an aberrant and clockwork sorcs are in a good spot; they get 10 bonus spells that are on theme plus more spell choices from the more restricted Sorc list. Wild magic and draconic are in a far worse spot: they are down 10 spells (with no additional options like others) and are stuck with the limited spell list of the sorcerer. Dragon sorcs still lack good elemental spells unless you're a fire dragon, and wild doesn't have access to awesome chaos spells to compliment wild surge.Of course, clockwork and aberrant would have been fine if they were still choices from Tasha's, they aren't getting any overhauls. Storm, divine and shadow though suffer the same issues as draconic and wild; not enough thematic spells on the sorcerer list and lack of additional spells known. It's exceptionally frustrating since storm had bonus spells in its UA that were removed because the PHB subs lacked them, only to later have aberrant and clockwork have better bonus spells than storm had! You can argue divine is in a good place since it will have the entire cleric list and more choices, but shadow again suffers from a lack of thematic shadow spells (or even illusions, enchantments and necromancy in general) and gets one additional spell (darkness). Storm and shadow could have benefited from being in the PHB and getting buffed to the level of Aberrant and clockwork, but instead the two best subs will remain the go-to choices while WotC refuses to add bonus spells to the other subclasses. Maybe the eventual 2025 Everything book will even things out, but until then there is going to be a lot of modron and mindflayer sorcs...</blockquote>

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