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<blockquote data-quote="dave2008" data-source="post: 7793730" data-attributes="member: 83242"><p>I agree, they should have just stuck the prof. bonus to HD. That would also prevent the DMG monster buiding guidelines form being circular which can be confusing. However,...</p><p></p><p>Prof. / HD / CR are different things. If you use HD for the prof. bonus you will notice that it doesn't change the CR of 90% - 95% of the monsters. So they are good to go (that is what I meant in the previous email - sorry I didn't explain that). You do need to adjust the attack numbers, but IMO that is easy. So my point is, the spells can use CR and it still works. It actually makes sense as CR is supposed to measure combat effectiveness but prof. just measures accuracy (generally). I wish it was executed better, but, IMO, it is actually better than basing it off HD / level has combat effectiveness can vary across various creatures HD/ level. Indeed, once you factor in different HD die for monster size it really begins to makes sense (I actually wish all PCs got d8 for HD and then class gave a flat bonus to HP) forma simulation standpoint.</p><p></p><p></p><p>No it matters, I've just never seen a player complain about this before. There are definitely things, as a DM, that bother more from a simulation perspective in any version of D&D/PF than HD/CR/Prof. bonus, but everyone is different.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="dave2008, post: 7793730, member: 83242"] I agree, they should have just stuck the prof. bonus to HD. That would also prevent the DMG monster buiding guidelines form being circular which can be confusing. However,... Prof. / HD / CR are different things. If you use HD for the prof. bonus you will notice that it doesn't change the CR of 90% - 95% of the monsters. So they are good to go (that is what I meant in the previous email - sorry I didn't explain that). You do need to adjust the attack numbers, but IMO that is easy. So my point is, the spells can use CR and it still works. It actually makes sense as CR is supposed to measure combat effectiveness but prof. just measures accuracy (generally). I wish it was executed better, but, IMO, it is actually better than basing it off HD / level has combat effectiveness can vary across various creatures HD/ level. Indeed, once you factor in different HD die for monster size it really begins to makes sense (I actually wish all PCs got d8 for HD and then class gave a flat bonus to HP) forma simulation standpoint. No it matters, I've just never seen a player complain about this before. There are definitely things, as a DM, that bother more from a simulation perspective in any version of D&D/PF than HD/CR/Prof. bonus, but everyone is different. [/QUOTE]
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