Armor Specialization (Plate)

[DracoSuave]

Any argument that operates under the assumption that monsters with higher Intellegence Wisdom scores than a fighter are somehow stupider than players is a flawed argument at the outset.

Some monsters have the knowledge skills to know what players can do, and a monster group that can communicate this to each other has the advantage of knowledge.

 

[Goumindong]

It does if the DM figures the monster is intelligent enough to know how rogues work. Most probably are. Many are smarter than the most characters and have probably been around the block more.

But monsters are lemmings and just plow themselves to death on the character's swords. If they aren't, DnD doesn't work. So most of this thread is pretty much moot.

But we are not arguing that "mosnsters know about fighter abilities because they are smart enough to know about fighter abilities". He is claiming that they explicitly know how it works because it can be used on him.

Furthermore, no one was saying that "monsters don't know about fighter abilities after they've been used" or that "monsters cannot communicate about other abilities after they've been used" or that "monsters cannot see a player do something and then make an inference after that has occurred about what the player can do".

In fact, had you two read back a few pages, you would have seen me explain all of that and how it was likely to work and why. [Though i would likely reject the idea that they know about CC before the fight, since knowledge skills do not typically give that information, nor do they give that information about classes, since classes are not race/society based information. You could know about a dragonborns breath weapon for instance, but not the fact that he was a cleric.]