So I have a question I cant find an answer to anywhere in the books. It has rules, very clear in the equipment section, on how long it takes to put armor on. What it doesnt have is rules for why you ever would take it off. I mean, yes, role playing wise you want to take off your armor to get clean at the very least, but is there any other reasons, mechanics wise, for that paranoid fighter to get out of his scale mail before sleeping?
Armored Pyjamas
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ForbidenMaster
Explorer
Not according to RAW, however I wouldnt let my character sleep in anything but cloth.
Karidemus said:
Welcome to the boards.
Nope, no rules for sleeping in your armor, failing to brush your teeth, repairing your shield after combat, or how to take out a loan. Also no rules about not sleeping outside in the rain.
Personally, I think insisting your PC sleeps in armor might lose you a healing surge the next day unless you make an Endurance check, but that might be decent tradeoff if you are pushed to the point of exhaustion but are at such risk of attack that you just slump over in your plate mail exahusted and try to nap.
I do not think they intended for there to be penalties. The caught with your pants down or armor off thing is cool and all but it hits warriors and other heavy armor wearers while not hurting the mages/thieves. This would seem to be counter to the design goal of everyone always being useful and never being in a spot where they are disadvantaged more than others based on class. I suspect it basically would have been seen as not particularly fun for the fighter to have to suck in every night time ambush when he wasn't on watch.
Ahglock said:
Yeah, this pretty much sums it up.
I'd just say that proficiency with any kind of armor includes the equivalent of 3E's Endurance feat - you can sleep in that armor without suffering ill effects the next day. All PCs are veteran campaigners, they're used to this sort of thing.
Verdande
First Post
Which are, obviously, not addressed in D&D. Do you make your players take penalties to diplomacy if they haven't brushed their teeth recently?
Anyways, to the OP, I'd say that if you want to hit them with their armor off, like in the middle of the night or in early morning, simply tell them that they don't have time to put their armor on. It's as easy as that. If your players ask why, tell them that it'd take too long. You don't need some rule making up numbers for you to show your players- you know your group, make something up that suits all of you.
Danceofmasks
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Well, my take is, that's what a wizard is for.
It's the real reason wizards are the only controllers in the PHB .. they control party hygeine.
It's the real reason wizards are the only controllers in the PHB .. they control party hygeine.
mach1.9pants
Hero
I don't; however if the players turn up not having brushed their teeth they get penalties on every roll!Which are, obviously, not addressed in D&D. Do you make your players take penalties to diplomacy if they haven't brushed their teeth recently?
generalhenry
First Post
it's a balance thing.
all classes are equal at all times, even at night.
all classes are equal at all times, even at night.
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