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<blockquote data-quote="Kingreaper" data-source="post: 6134889" data-attributes="member: 83870">You're not &quot;making it not rust&quot; by changing it's nature. You're &quot;making it not rust&quot; by preventing it moving away from the platonic ideal of metal.Hence it being a creo terram effect.You remove fire; not heat. But it's the same principle.Wind, earth and water are all cold, because they lack fire. Fire is the element associated with heat, cold and heat are opposites.Or are you going to say that only air is cold, not water? Or metal?It's actually +2 in all of them except creo, where it's +4. I just misremembered what it was in rego.And affecting different versions of the form has different difficulties in more than just terram. It has different difficulties in Auram to affect wind and to affect lightning.It has different difficulties in Aquam to affect water and to affect unnatural liquids.It has different difficulties in Animal to affect different types of animal.It has different difficulties in Imaginem to affect different senses.Terram is not unique in the slightest in that.Because metal is associated with the element of earth, it's just a harder form.No reason you couldn't, it'd be a massive breakthrough, and would involve the occasional &quot;go and find something relevant&quot; adventure. Depends on your GMs attitude to those things.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Kingreaper, post: 6134889, member: 83870"] You're not "making it not rust" by changing it's nature. You're "making it not rust" by preventing it moving away from the platonic ideal of metal. Hence it being a creo terram effect. You remove fire; not heat. But it's the same principle. Wind, earth and water are all cold, because they lack fire. Fire is the element associated with heat, cold and heat are opposites. Or are you going to say that only air is cold, not water? Or metal? It's actually +2 in all of them except creo, where it's +4. I just misremembered what it was in rego. And affecting different versions of the form has different difficulties in more than just terram. It has different difficulties in Auram to affect wind and to affect lightning. It has different difficulties in Aquam to affect water and to affect unnatural liquids. It has different difficulties in Animal to affect different types of animal. It has different difficulties in Imaginem to affect different senses. Terram is not unique in the slightest in that. Because metal is associated with the element of earth, it's just a harder form. No reason you couldn't, it'd be a massive breakthrough, and would involve the occasional "go and find something relevant" adventure. Depends on your GMs attitude to those things. [/QUOTE]

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