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[Artificer] UMD with multiple spells on the same scroll & when to make the roll
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<blockquote data-quote="Kaodi" data-source="post: 2626805" data-attributes="member: 1231"><p><strong>Scrolls</strong></p><p></p><p>Hmmm... A scroll is a spell (or collection of spells) that has been stored in written form. That little sentence is taken from the SRD, and I think it implies that the part of a scroll that holds the magic is the actual writing of the spell itself, not the material it was written on. So multiple spells is really a question of " Is the magic of the scroll held in all of the spells together, or each one individually? " If the answer is all together, either you succeed on the item or you fail, all or nothing. But if the answer is individually, it means that if you fail spells A and C of a scroll with spells A, B, C, D and E, you still have a scroll with spells B, D and E.</p><p></p><p>I think that the *real* contradiction about scrolls, and something perhaps worth houseruling, is that if you have a one page scroll with a 9th level spell on it, it takes nine pages to scribe it into a spellbook, and vice versa. Now that, as written, truly makes no sense.</p><p></p><p>Creating magic items with multiple abilities is just a slippery slope in general. If time is not an issue, by the RAW, you should always create you items one component at a time, because I do not believe it says anywhere that when you try to improve an existing item you run the risk of ruining the existing item. If time is an issue, well, the risks are greater, period.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Kaodi, post: 2626805, member: 1231"] [b]Scrolls[/b] Hmmm... A scroll is a spell (or collection of spells) that has been stored in written form. That little sentence is taken from the SRD, and I think it implies that the part of a scroll that holds the magic is the actual writing of the spell itself, not the material it was written on. So multiple spells is really a question of " Is the magic of the scroll held in all of the spells together, or each one individually? " If the answer is all together, either you succeed on the item or you fail, all or nothing. But if the answer is individually, it means that if you fail spells A and C of a scroll with spells A, B, C, D and E, you still have a scroll with spells B, D and E. I think that the *real* contradiction about scrolls, and something perhaps worth houseruling, is that if you have a one page scroll with a 9th level spell on it, it takes nine pages to scribe it into a spellbook, and vice versa. Now that, as written, truly makes no sense. Creating magic items with multiple abilities is just a slippery slope in general. If time is not an issue, by the RAW, you should always create you items one component at a time, because I do not believe it says anywhere that when you try to improve an existing item you run the risk of ruining the existing item. If time is an issue, well, the risks are greater, period. [/QUOTE]
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