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<blockquote data-quote="tetrasodium" data-source="post: 9066136" data-attributes="member: 93670">II don't think that they can as long as it's single handedly trying to force mall ninja cultivation novel tropes into a system of mechanics and world building where they don't fit, you can't ignore the baggage with just a change from ki to discipline.Strip away the wuxia/cultivation layers and you immediately crash into the earlier mentioned don't bring a fist to a swordfight problem because the concept only works if you are somehow reskinning the other eleven classes to fit the setting and mechanics to those layers that makeup the entirety of the monk.&nbsp; Once you start adding it to the other classes you keep it till you get to things like battle angel, full metal alchemist, ghost in the shell,&nbsp; beast wars, and other fictional examples that outright replace it with cybernetics or similar.&nbsp; The wuxia/cultivation tropes exist to make martial arts &quot;cooler&quot; than weapons and even then said fiction tends to very often rely heavily on them.&nbsp; Trying to make the unarmed cultivator martial artist who doesn't need weapons or armor concept work in a setting &amp; set of mechanics without the obvious cultural/ethnic links to dubious things like the old Kung Fu tv show in a system and setting where everyone else tries to use weapons and armor would be a bit like trying to normalize lawn jockeys or something.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="tetrasodium, post: 9066136, member: 93670"] II don't think that they can as long as it's single handedly trying to force mall ninja cultivation novel tropes into a system of mechanics and world building where they don't fit, you can't ignore the baggage with just a change from ki to discipline. Strip away the wuxia/cultivation layers and you immediately crash into the earlier mentioned don't bring a fist to a swordfight problem because the concept only works if you are somehow reskinning the other eleven classes to fit the setting and mechanics to those layers that makeup the entirety of the monk. Once you start adding it to the other classes you keep it till you get to things like battle angel, full metal alchemist, ghost in the shell, beast wars, and other fictional examples that outright replace it with cybernetics or similar. The wuxia/cultivation tropes exist to make martial arts "cooler" than weapons and even then said fiction tends to very often rely heavily on them. Trying to make the unarmed cultivator martial artist who doesn't need weapons or armor concept work in a setting & set of mechanics without the obvious cultural/ethnic links to dubious things like the old Kung Fu tv show in a system and setting where everyone else tries to use weapons and armor would be a bit like trying to normalize lawn jockeys or something. [/QUOTE]

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