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Message: <blockquote data-quote="nevin" data-source="post: 9067930" data-attributes="member: 7024481">I've watched and participated in these arguments since 1976 in person and  online.  What I realized  a few years ago is that 1d AD&D is the best balanced version to date.   Mainly because the classes were made for the limited options in the books.   Since Unearthed Arcana launched it's been Whack-a-Mole trying to balance this idea or that idea.    The only way to balance is to limit options and create an "Ecosystem"  Any add or deletion from said ecosystem starts it all over.   The problem there is your balance is my imbalance.   So we either accept it's up to the DM to balance it.  Or we all argue till we cant type or talk anymore.    I'm good with that, I like arguments and discussions, but I've accepted the pointless nature of the argument.</blockquote>