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Message: <blockquote data-quote="King_Stannis" data-source="post: 585568" data-attributes="member: 324">I have visited the "Ring of Ice and Fire" boards, dedicated to Martin's series, and I've noticed a common theme. Many of the members over there simply DESPISE the character of Stannis Baratheon. Absolutely hate him. They immediately point out that he was willing to sacrafice his own blood - his nephew, I believe it was - in order to gain the throne. They fail to see that he did not want to kill the boy, and if he did it was because the fate of Westeros depended upon him gaining the throne. Yeah, yeah, I know about Melisandre. That's a confusing issue. He listens to her council because she has pretty much been spot-on with her predictions. I am convinced that he had no idea about the SHADOW that she birthed to cap his brother.Let's not forget that he saved the Night Watch and the northern lands, too. This guy gets dumped on and easily dismissed as a minor pretender to the Iron Throne. He may not be the one sitting on it at the end, but I wouldn't be surprised if A) he's one of the last ones standing; or B) he's still alive at the end. What say you all? Stannis hater? Stannis defender? Somewhere in the middle? What do you think will come of him? What are some of his redeeming/damning features and actions?Discuss!</blockquote>