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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Beefermatic" data-source="post: 5729708" data-attributes="member: 6670757">Actually, I use the slightly off stuff along side the others. It's an easy enough process to add a generic divine-ish template to things, and not everything has to be an actual god. I have something called 'Spiritual Strength' that I add to high level Outsiders and people who want god like powers without any of the drawbacks, but not nearly the growth. If you look at IH Ascension pg 17 and use that growth block as a template then you can see what I use. It's fairly easy to add that to a pre-existing creature with some minor tweaking, and call it a day. So fire away!  Things don't need to be perfect. We're all big boys here, we can improvise and fix stuff as we see fit if needed. I put 'as needed' most of the time on feats lists, for instance, rather than actually pouring for hours over the feats. They are for the most part kind of outdated at that point anyway, in my opinion of course.  I think if we just simply get some framework creatures, Dabbat, Tetragrammaton, etc., down and just take it all with a grain of salt. You make something, I make something, Satan makes something for instance, and just take into consideration that we all have different ideas of what these beings should be like, and how they should be handled and just simply accept that basically we are all going to have some kind of knit-pick with everyone else's stuff, and let it go, then I think we'll be fine, and I think we'll really have a chance of getting this thing going somewhere. I think we should all work independently and simply collaborate on who works on what so there is no confusion. When the beings are situated, like it or not, we accept it, and if we don't like something we change it for our own personal use and call it a day.  Also we shouldn't expect magic overnight, I expect a long while for anyone to get anything crazy up.   Hells yeah! Templates and variant rules are awesome! There are like 500 unfinished templates that would be great to see fleshed out. --- Like I said previously, if you guys can help cool beans; if not then no worries. I'm planning on putting stuff down when I have time regardless of if you guys help or not. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> I personally love the IH System, and really want to see it to fruition, or at least the last book, even in PDF format. Thanks again UK. If you guys are down to help, then pick a creature and let's do it. As it stands Abraxas, Dabbat, and Tetragammaton, are unfinished as far as big dog Gods. The rest are monsters, and templates. Easy enough if handled right. If any of these strikes your fancy please go nuts. Abomination Drakainai (She-Dragons) Gigantes (Giant Ones)*Bestidol (Animal Tyrants) Bogeyman (Zombie King) Template Bolla (Worm) Chon Chon (*Demon Vampire flying head thing) Template Demon, Tzitzimime (Star Demon)Dragon, Doom Dahak (Doom Dragon) Typhon (Lunar Dragon) Dragon, Lunar Draugr (Grateful Dead) Golem, Chalk Kalagni (Flame of Time) Keres (Evil Spirit) Template *Jotunn (Troll) Kulshedra (The Beast of Gorgiron) Likho (*The pure embodiment of evil) Magog (Harbinger of Doom) Ma-Yuan (God-Slayer) Menhir (Spell-Eaters) Pitris (*Entity level abimnation, thinking biological based, universal cancer)Strigoi (Space Vampire) Template Titan Template (lesser and greater)Wakinyan (Thunderbird) *all of these I made a minor modification to just for simplicity and thought provocation. IH: Gods and Monsters has the original.  UK, before any of us go ahead with any of this, are you okay with this?  Thanks guys, either way. It's most appreciated. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></blockquote>

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