Attacking When Blind Questions?

Aluvial

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When you attack while you are blind you suffer the same disability as if all your other opponents are invisible?

Does this mean you cannot move directly towards (1/2 your move granted) your opponent and attempt to attack it w/ the 50% miss chance?

Or do you roll at random to see if you hit the correct square THEN roll the 50% miss chance?

Do you lose ALL of your Dex ability when you are blind and effectively become -5 AC or do you just lose any positive modifier?

Any other issues resolving attacking when blind?

Thanks,

Aluvial
 

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Just the positive modifier to AC goes.

And important note - you don't roll randomly to choose a square, you choose the square yourself. So you can make educated guesses. Plus there are chances through Listen to pinpoint a square.

Now, if you really want to start a debate, ask whether you can still make AoOs.

-Hyp.
 

Why is only the positive modifier to Dex lost?

Where does it state this, I need to show one of my lawyers if you don't mind...

As for AoO's, what is the big debate? I would assume that you would still get an opportunity to hit an invisible target if he was nearby...

Aluvial
 

SRD: (also dm's guide i suppose)

Blinded
The character cannot see at all, and thus everything has full concealment to him. He has a 50% chance to miss in combat, loses his positive Dexterity bonus to AC (if any), and grants a +2 bonus on attack rolls to enemies that attack him, just as if all his enemies were invisible. He moves at half speed and suffers a -4 penalty on most Strength and Dexterity-based skills. He cannot make Spot skill checks or perform any other activity (such as reading) that requires vision.

As for Aoo's: if you can't see the creature, how do you know if its doint something that provokes an aoo :)

Maitre D
 

Ok so according to the SRD if I'm blind I can move half my speed towards my opponent's "correct" space and attack with a 50% miss chance.

If I have Blind Fighting and I miss due to the miss chance I get another attempt to roll the percentage to hit...

Why can a blind character move directly to where his opponent's square is?

Let's say my bad guy troll is hit and fails the save to a Holy Smite blinding effect... The effect only last for a few rounds, can the troll, who was aware of all of the positions of his opponents right before he got hit by the spell, charge the Cleric during his turn in the round IF the Cleric is within half of the Troll's movement?


Aluvial
 

Ok so according to the SRD if I'm blind I can move half my speed towards my opponent's "correct" space and attack with a 50% miss chance.

Why can a blind character move directly to where his opponent's square is?

No, you can move directly to the square you choose, which might not be the same thing at all. If your opponent isn't in the square you choose, you miss no matter what the miss chance roll shows.

Let's say my bad guy troll is hit and fails the save to a Holy Smite blinding effect... The effect only last for a few rounds, can the troll, who was aware of all of the positions of his opponents right before he got hit by the spell, charge the Cleric during his turn in the round IF the Cleric is within half of the Troll's movement?

Yes. In the next round, though, if the cleric has moved away, he would need a good listen check to inpoint the square the cleric was in; otherwise, he'd only hear the approximate direction (or nothing at all) and would have to guess based on the information he had.

-Hyp.
 

So how do you adjucate this in play?

Since I have exact knowledge of the positions of the party being the DM, how do I know if the blind creature is able to choose the correct square in order to have a chance to hit?

Aluvial
 

My DM allows a chance for gaining an AoO against an "invisible" creature. It is a very small chance normally, quite improved if that creature has Scent or you attempt to move through its square.

I believe it also states in the DMG somewhere that you are aware of the square an attack comes if adjacent. An attack with reach only gives a direction. A blinded creature can Ready an attack; it is not completely helpless.
 


Since I have exact knowledge of the positions of the party being the DM, how do I know if the blind creature is able to choose the correct square in order to have a chance to hit?

You're the DM. Use your judgement.

As DM, you have exact knowledge that the Cleric has Protection from Elements up, and the Rogue has Improved Evasion and an unholy Reflex save, and the Fighter is under a Bestow Curse that gives him a -6 on all saving throws.

How do you decide who the Hellhound breathes on?

-Hyp.
 

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