Aug 30th Adventure III
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Fyrestryke
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I'll be out of town this weekend as it's Labor Day weekend. Wish I could make it. I won't be able to unless you guys wanna push back a week or something. But, that will conflict with already scheduled boardgames...
Grimhelm
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Sorry, but the schedule must remain consistent. You knew about it. You made the choice. We lose, girl wins. We understand. But we don't like it!
I can't make it.
Last week that's all I said. It appears there is a problem I can't get around. Since the hospital has closed and things have changed, I've said that I might take another job. What I didn't say is that my wife is looking, and has in fact taken a second job.
I was under the delusion that she would work only one day a week-end and that it would be Sunday. So far, she works both days nearly every week-end. I can't get around having all three kids by myself and at least one is the kind that if I came and brought him, we'd never get anything done at the game table.
Thus it ends.
The only thing I can throw out, and I hesitate to do so, is that the opposite week-end I don't have any kids. If wifey works then, it doesn't matter. I certainly don't expect anyone to change the schedule but I would be remiss to not mention every possibility that I've thought of.
I apologize for these developments. Had I been able to foresee them I would have communicated said future. I'd like to thank everyone, including those I've not met, for the opportunity. It was too brief indeed.
Last week that's all I said. It appears there is a problem I can't get around. Since the hospital has closed and things have changed, I've said that I might take another job. What I didn't say is that my wife is looking, and has in fact taken a second job.
I was under the delusion that she would work only one day a week-end and that it would be Sunday. So far, she works both days nearly every week-end. I can't get around having all three kids by myself and at least one is the kind that if I came and brought him, we'd never get anything done at the game table.
Thus it ends.
The only thing I can throw out, and I hesitate to do so, is that the opposite week-end I don't have any kids. If wifey works then, it doesn't matter. I certainly don't expect anyone to change the schedule but I would be remiss to not mention every possibility that I've thought of.
I apologize for these developments. Had I been able to foresee them I would have communicated said future. I'd like to thank everyone, including those I've not met, for the opportunity. It was too brief indeed.
InzeladunMaster
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The alternative weekend is when I have all my children, and having them all there creates too much stress for me to run a game, plus I usually use that weekend to do family things.
I just have throw my hands up in despair at this point. It seemed like a lot of people wanted me to run a game (see http://www.enworld.org/forum/showthread.php?t=219602 and http://www.enworld.org/forum/showthread.php?t=218680) and based on that feedback I started a game. Yet none of the people who have asked me to run games again has been able or willing to show up!
Now we are back to where the last game ended because no one (again like last time, usually through no fault of their own) can (or wants to) attend.
If the game just sucks, I need to know. Once again I feel like I am devoting a lot of time to something that no one wants, needs or perhaps even appreciates.
Honestly, at this point I am ready to just throw in the towel.
I start my PhD program next week, so my time is going to be at a premium, and I really am not going to have time to waste on constantly cancelled games and unappreciated effort - even though everyone has perfectly legitimate excuses (I certainly cannot fault APewty, and he is awesome at the game, btw). Right now the excuses are good, but the last game started out that way until the excuses eventually became, "well, I got to clean my house" and the like.
I am starting to feel like a card-carrying idiot, eagerly believing everyone is as enthused at the new game as Mark and I are - but now it seems like it is only me and Mark who are enthused, and possibly the only ones who ever were enthused.
I just have throw my hands up in despair at this point. It seemed like a lot of people wanted me to run a game (see http://www.enworld.org/forum/showthread.php?t=219602 and http://www.enworld.org/forum/showthread.php?t=218680) and based on that feedback I started a game. Yet none of the people who have asked me to run games again has been able or willing to show up!
Now we are back to where the last game ended because no one (again like last time, usually through no fault of their own) can (or wants to) attend.
If the game just sucks, I need to know. Once again I feel like I am devoting a lot of time to something that no one wants, needs or perhaps even appreciates.
Honestly, at this point I am ready to just throw in the towel.
I start my PhD program next week, so my time is going to be at a premium, and I really am not going to have time to waste on constantly cancelled games and unappreciated effort - even though everyone has perfectly legitimate excuses (I certainly cannot fault APewty, and he is awesome at the game, btw). Right now the excuses are good, but the last game started out that way until the excuses eventually became, "well, I got to clean my house" and the like.
I am starting to feel like a card-carrying idiot, eagerly believing everyone is as enthused at the new game as Mark and I are - but now it seems like it is only me and Mark who are enthused, and possibly the only ones who ever were enthused.
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Grimhelm
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While I must vociferously disagree with IM's belief that his game must suck, I must also feel a certain empathy for him. All I can hope is that people start to come again soon. I know that Chris has expressed a desire and willingness to come. Alex, too, wants to come, but his brother had surgery and is being picked up in Florida to live with him.
None of the reasons given were bad. I understand. I refuse to be disheartened by it, however. At the same time, if it continues, I will actively look for new players to take the place of people who can't come. I do not say this as a threat. I only say it because I want to play.
Please let us know in this thread if you sincerely believe you can come on a regular basis starting in two weeks. Thank you.
Mark
None of the reasons given were bad. I understand. I refuse to be disheartened by it, however. At the same time, if it continues, I will actively look for new players to take the place of people who can't come. I do not say this as a threat. I only say it because I want to play.
Please let us know in this thread if you sincerely believe you can come on a regular basis starting in two weeks. Thank you.
Mark
For this reason alone I really hated to mention changing the week-end. I don't remember the context but we had discussed that you had more than one child on the other week-ends. I can't imagine bringing my kids to a game session. I don't expect you to want to, let alone to actually do it. In retrospect, I wish I hadn't mentioned it...
Speaking for myself only, I fully intended to be at every session. I still had to support my wife in wanting to get this job. The main reason is she is thinking about doing it full time. Even so, the week-end is wrecked. Back to square one, do not collect $200.
I did not think the game sucked. To be completely honest, I was still getting back on my P&P gaming feet so there's some butterfly's on my part doing that and meeting new people, but I was still looking forward to it. I can also empathize with that feeling, having DM'd in my early years almost constantly. I don't remember as vividly as I used to, but I can still sort of remember putting many hours and effort into planning sessions, and people either not making it, or even if they made it, they spent more time picking their nose or searching the nearby house for other distractions than actually playing. I know DM'ing is tough. Anyone that hasn't done it has little idea how much work it requires, and (perhaps more importantly) how much concentration it takes to keep the game moving. It's very draining to run a several hour session. At least it was for me.
Been there, done that. Complete empathy from me. I hate I'm helping to cause this feeling.
I'll agree with you here. I toyed last session with getting a babysitter. I was expecting for her to clear Saturdays. It's not happening. I'm not willing to jerk you folks around. I'm throwing in the towel because I can see it's not going my way. But to play, whether it's me or someone else, including the players that have been there and want to be there (Grim, DM, Fyre) it still takes an enormous commitment that takes work to meet. This shouldn't be lightly given. Even more frustrating for me because, when I committed, I saw no problem. Initially due to the flooding, I take no call now. I was very happy knowing I had no conflicts of schedule. All the more reason I've not been happy with these changes of late.
I would say that, if others had been making the game then I would feel less badly about having to leave. It's a tough thing to realize after two sessions that you have 3-4 core players. There's a strong hint of a problem there. So I would have to agree with you here that it does seem odd that people wanting to come...haven't come.
Again I can only speak for myself. I was very enthused. I usually don't step foot in game shops because I don't have the money, space, time or friends to even think about actually playing any of them. Less than 2.5 weeks ago, I was doing research and shopping for references, as well as brushing up on rules and thinking about character development. It's all dead now.
I can guarantee I was enthused.
In closing this reply, I can't say how ironic this has been. To find a game near home, almost by chance through the internet: To finally play as a player in a long term campaing has been something I've wanted to do for over 20 years. My last attempt was ill-fated. This time it seemed like destiny. A part of me is crushed. My wife says to look for another group that matches my free time. I said nothing. What can I say? I HAD found a group that was going to work very well. What's to keep the next one from "not matching my schedule"?
It seems to me that I am, after all, not destined to play this sort of a game. Even were I to win the lottery and quit my job, I would be leery to dive in again, fearing some unforseen circumstance that would keep me from fulfilling my obligation and desire.
Well, enough whining. I should hope that the world you have created will be populated next session. I would hope that someone is able to start coming. I actually hope that I am little missed. This would be a good thing and would signal that the world does not live or die by one person, as it shouldn't.
Grimhelm
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Well, just so you know, APewty, we really enjoyed having you. We don't blame you. Situations change. In our hearts we don't blame anyone for having lives and problems. Yet the fact remains that we really want to play this game and can't seem to put anything together. And ironically, the people who have the most time (Bob and Craig) have no real desire to play.
It's just frackin' awful to get something going only to have everyone in the frackin' party bail on you. And, damn it all if I can't blame anyone. It is a weird situation. It is depressing.
But, we will perservere, even if we have to find totally new guys to play with us!
Good luck to you, APewty. We enjoyed your visits and looked forward to your input. Alas!
Mark
It's just frackin' awful to get something going only to have everyone in the frackin' party bail on you. And, damn it all if I can't blame anyone. It is a weird situation. It is depressing.
But, we will perservere, even if we have to find totally new guys to play with us!
Good luck to you, APewty. We enjoyed your visits and looked forward to your input. Alas!
Mark
Fyrestryke
Explorer
Apewty - You will definitely be missed. Even for only two sessions, you were a good friend and player and you will always remain a good friend. You're always welcome here even if we can't play face to face... 
Vince - I am very enthused about the game. I was having a blast! I spent hours and hours working on Marah and I was really enjoying playing her. I've missed the last two sessions (the previous one and the one that was slated for this weekend). Both, I have missed due to long-standing plans that I had long before we restarted gaming. One was GenCon and the other is Labor Day weekend with my friends in St. Louis. Unfortunately for the game, both happened to be two weeks apart on game weeks. I do not have any other pre-planned events until October. I will endeavor to make the rest of the games short of emergencies or unforseen circumstances. Scrapping December (family get-togethers, work parties, etc.) would seem suitable to me since everyone has so much trouble that month.
Here's a schedule to 2009 (and personal conflicts I can forsee as of tonite)
August 30 (I'll be in St. Louis)
September 13 (I'm not sure about this day - It's my parents 30th Anniversary and I'll either need to play late or early depending on if we have a lunch-time party or a dinner-time party - probably dinner-time and I'd have to be out of gaming round 4pm)
September 27 (Hope Heritage Days - I'll be available around 2pm or 3pm)
October 11
October 25 (I have to be done by 7pm)
November 8
November 22
December 6
December 20
January 3
Anyways, I know the game fell apart before and we just got started and have hit some speedbumps... But, if we threw in the towel at every little hiccup, we'd never get anything accomplished...
As for the others attending. I know of at least three who really want to and have been legitimately tied up for all the sessions up to now.
Vince - I am very enthused about the game. I was having a blast! I spent hours and hours working on Marah and I was really enjoying playing her. I've missed the last two sessions (the previous one and the one that was slated for this weekend). Both, I have missed due to long-standing plans that I had long before we restarted gaming. One was GenCon and the other is Labor Day weekend with my friends in St. Louis. Unfortunately for the game, both happened to be two weeks apart on game weeks. I do not have any other pre-planned events until October. I will endeavor to make the rest of the games short of emergencies or unforseen circumstances. Scrapping December (family get-togethers, work parties, etc.) would seem suitable to me since everyone has so much trouble that month.
Here's a schedule to 2009 (and personal conflicts I can forsee as of tonite)
August 30 (I'll be in St. Louis)
September 13 (I'm not sure about this day - It's my parents 30th Anniversary and I'll either need to play late or early depending on if we have a lunch-time party or a dinner-time party - probably dinner-time and I'd have to be out of gaming round 4pm)
September 27 (Hope Heritage Days - I'll be available around 2pm or 3pm)
October 11
October 25 (I have to be done by 7pm)
November 8
November 22
December 6
December 20
January 3
Anyways, I know the game fell apart before and we just got started and have hit some speedbumps... But, if we threw in the towel at every little hiccup, we'd never get anything accomplished...
As for the others attending. I know of at least three who really want to and have been legitimately tied up for all the sessions up to now.
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