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<blockquote data-quote="Mistwell" data-source="post: 4121889" data-attributes="member: 2525"><p>That too is obviously indirect, and not direct. </p><p></p><p>Take the time now to explain how that is actually the same kind of thing as this spell. It seems to me an example of the opposite kind of thing to this spell. It once again is something that is completely independent of the spell itself that does the damage. In this case, fire.</p><p></p><p>Let me put it a different way, since you like analogies. In every example of an indirect effect caused by a spell, it's a person (or creature), or a place (plane of fire) or thing (like, say, if you light something on fire with a spell and then push someone into it). An independent intervening thing is always something you can point to. It's that creature you summon. It's that fire you got put in. It's that potion you drink.</p><p></p><p>Fast Healing is not like those things. It's not something you can point at. It's not a person, place, or thing. It's an effect of causing healing to happen over many rounds, much like cure light wounds causes an effect (instant healing).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mistwell, post: 4121889, member: 2525"] That too is obviously indirect, and not direct. Take the time now to explain how that is actually the same kind of thing as this spell. It seems to me an example of the opposite kind of thing to this spell. It once again is something that is completely independent of the spell itself that does the damage. In this case, fire. Let me put it a different way, since you like analogies. In every example of an indirect effect caused by a spell, it's a person (or creature), or a place (plane of fire) or thing (like, say, if you light something on fire with a spell and then push someone into it). An independent intervening thing is always something you can point to. It's that creature you summon. It's that fire you got put in. It's that potion you drink. Fast Healing is not like those things. It's not something you can point at. It's not a person, place, or thing. It's an effect of causing healing to happen over many rounds, much like cure light wounds causes an effect (instant healing). [/QUOTE]
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