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<blockquote data-quote="Saeviomagy" data-source="post: 1911677" data-attributes="member: 5890"><p>See - if someone writes a little story about bending the rules, and accomplishing something that is obviously way too good (ie - there is not a possible way to distinguish the casting animal from the others), then I don't think it's snarky to point out that that is in fact what they've done.</p><p></p><p>Regardless of your form, casting a spell requires a strong, firm voice, concentration and unusual hand gestures.</p><p></p><p>Regardless of your form, spellcraft easily recognises spellcasting. After all, it has no problem detecting (say) a kraken mage, or a beholder mage, or a mage speaking french when you speak english. The language and gestures of magic are universal enough that one can pick them out with ease.</p><p></p><p>A wildshaped druid is no different.</p><p></p><p>Saying "it requires knowledge nature/detect magic/survival/speak with animals" to detect a spellcasting mage is like saying that it requires tongues and knowledge (dungeoneering) to detect a spellcasting aboleth.</p><p></p><p>Sorry. No dice.</p><p></p><p>With that in mind, if you want to try the "I'm just a bird, don't mind me, I'm not casting spells at you at all" trick, then you might want to invest in the skills necessary to do so, such as hide and bluff, or the feats necessary to do so, such as still and silent spell.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Saeviomagy, post: 1911677, member: 5890"] See - if someone writes a little story about bending the rules, and accomplishing something that is obviously way too good (ie - there is not a possible way to distinguish the casting animal from the others), then I don't think it's snarky to point out that that is in fact what they've done. Regardless of your form, casting a spell requires a strong, firm voice, concentration and unusual hand gestures. Regardless of your form, spellcraft easily recognises spellcasting. After all, it has no problem detecting (say) a kraken mage, or a beholder mage, or a mage speaking french when you speak english. The language and gestures of magic are universal enough that one can pick them out with ease. A wildshaped druid is no different. Saying "it requires knowledge nature/detect magic/survival/speak with animals" to detect a spellcasting mage is like saying that it requires tongues and knowledge (dungeoneering) to detect a spellcasting aboleth. Sorry. No dice. With that in mind, if you want to try the "I'm just a bird, don't mind me, I'm not casting spells at you at all" trick, then you might want to invest in the skills necessary to do so, such as hide and bluff, or the feats necessary to do so, such as still and silent spell. [/QUOTE]
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