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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Saeviomagy" data-source="post: 1913113" data-attributes="member: 5890">If the human is standing in the open (ie - not trying to hide), then there is no DC needed to spot him. You see him automatically. Stuff might be in the way, it might be dark, or whatever, but barring that there is no spot DC to see someone standing in front of you.If he's hiding, THEN there is a DC.Do you know why? Imagine the ridiculousness if you said it took even a dc 0 to spot a human being standing in the open with no cover. Half the time a peasant would be unable to see a man standing in a clear field 100 feet away. So this is a patently silly change to the rules unless you're going to overhaul the whole lot.If the squirrel is hiding, then the DC to spot him is some 12 higher than for a human (3 size categories I'd say).A human can hide in a crowd. A squirrel can hide in a crowd.Just use the mechanics that are there instead of trying to make them up. If someone is trying not to be seen, they are HIDING.If they are trying not to appear suspicious, they are BLUFFING. Probably. I wouldn't let a human caster get away with a bluff to conceal their spellcasting, so I won't let a squirrel one do so either.They're fairly simple and generic rules. They cover a lot of situations. They don't really need to be altered just because you think a druid shouldn't even need to TRY to hide...So wait - first you think that spotting a squirrel casting spells should be easy. So easy that the untrained eye can tell.But now it should be hard? I don't get it. I really don't.Oh, and way to devalue spellcraft even further. It's hard enough when half the stuff out there just uses SLA's and you can't counter them anyway. Now you can't even tell what they did...</blockquote>

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