Autofire static Reflex DC...

[dkilgo]

I believe that Ranger REG does have a point, but it is up to you whether you allow it. It really doesn't bother me either way. But, I have not had a chance to play with this option, or any option, yet.

 

[kreynolds]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Autofire static Reflex DC...

Are you using the "natural 20 = 30" rule with regards to calculating the DC?

Probably. Its either that or just use the 20 plus your modifiers. What would you recommend?

Why not? I mean if you lower the base DC to 10, you can allow Improved Autofire feat to bring it back up.

When I made that statement, I was considering lowering the DC to 12 (10 wasn't my idea). A +5 bonus is too big if the base is 12, IMO. At 12, I wouldn't allow a +5 bonus, but I would probably allow a +3 bonus. If I lowered the base DC to 10, I would probably allow a +5.

 

[Ranger REG]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Autofire static Reflex DC...

Probably. Its either that or just use the 20 plus your modifiers. What would you recommend?

Depends on how lethal you want it to be. Just keep in mind that low-level characters (PCs and NPCs) are essentially dead meats if you go with the "natural 20 = 30" rules. They simply don't have a high enough Ref save bonus, although one can hope for a natural 20 on the saving throw roll. This would definitely put emphasis on diving for cover which can provide Reflex save bonus, and to some extent, concealment.

When I made that statement, I was considering lowering the DC to 12 (10 wasn't my idea). A +5 bonus is too big if the base is 12, IMO. At 12, I wouldn't allow a +5 bonus, but I would probably allow a +3 bonus. If I lowered the base DC to 10, I would probably allow a +5.

My bad. I thought DC 10 was your idea.

 

[clockworkjoe]

Personally, I think the autofire ref save should be the attack roll of the person firing. Thus someone with no training with a MG would be easy to dodge (firing at the ground/air) or extremely hard (trained killer) with a max at DC 20.

 

[Ranger REG]

That means he could miss an entire stationary 10-by-10 area completely.

OTOH, it makes those high-level field scientists dropping those low-level soldiers like flies.

 

[Fellwind]

How about, only if they have the proficiency. If they don't, use the natural attack roll as the DC.

That makes people with training lots deadlier.

I like this way of working out the DC.