BAB for a 98 HD Dragon?

[Buddha the DM]

What would the BAB for a 98 HD Dragon be?

 

[Crothian]

+98

Dragon BAB equal its HD.

 

[Buddha the DM]

So natural monster hit dice do not fall prey to the epic rules for BAB....?

 

[Caliban]

So natural monster hit dice do not fall prey to the epic rules for BAB....?

Monsters don't get extra natural weapon attacks based on their BAB, and if I remember correctly, BAB gained from HD doesn't stop at 20 HD the way BAB gained from class levels do.

 

[kreynolds]

So natural monster hit dice do not fall prey to the epic rules for BAB....?

Page 7, ELH. A Titan with a BAB of +21 is still limited to four attacks with that weapon, no matter how high his BAB gets. Not sure if that answers your question though.

 

[Crothian]

The Epic rules for BAB only apply to 21+ character levels. Monsters gain BAB through HD, that follows different rules as mapped out in the MM.

 

[Buddha the DM]

Thanks all.. Just wanted to double check.

 

[Grazzt]

The Epic rules for BAB only apply to 21+ character levels. Monsters gain BAB through HD, that follows different rules as mapped out in the MM.

Yeppers- also mapped out in the ELH, page 7, at the bottom:

"This limit doesn't apply to the basae attack bonus derived from a monster's Hit Dice." And then it states the sentence that was quoted above (the titan example)...

 

[FANGO]

Hm, I wonder if that means I can advance my character as a humanoid with advanced HD when I gain a level in order to get that crucial extra BAB point that brings me up to 4 attacks a round...

(personally, I think that they could have done the epic bab stuff so much easier...double standards always lead to some sort of wackiness)

 

[Crothian]

Hm, I wonder if that means I can advance my character as a humanoid with advanced HD when I gain a level in order to get that crucial extra BAB point that brings me up to 4 attacks a round...

Now that is a legite way around it as far as I can tell. You'd have to do it twice becasue they get BAB as a cleric so the first time you'd get +0. So, instead of taking two levels in a class and getting all of that, this is what you'd get for that critical +1BAB.

+1 BAB
+2d8 HP
+3 to some saving throws (it's varible, but for human I'd say you get Fort)
+2 skill points
no feats, no attribute bonuses.

Now, you are effectively 2 levels behind, but you do have that extra attack. I'd allow this.