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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Chaosmancer" data-source="post: 7908326" data-attributes="member: 6801228">I've got a few different thoughts, and I think I will find the most use framing them around some of these posts, which amusingly, all come from the same poster. My first thoughts though, come from the reasoning. I write backstories (usually quite lengthy) because it helps me. I need to figure out who a character is, why they are adventuring, what hang ups they have. Just to throw out some examples, I had a Sorcerer who was a Jeweler, but he started life as a street urchin. He saw the magic gem that gave him his powers and led to him being taken as an apprentice (he'd tried stealing it by the way) as a blessing from the Goddess of Wealth. Because it led to him leading a quite well-off life compared to where he was before. That made him very devout, and it also made him despise thieves. He was a thief, but since he was able to rise above it as a child, he saw any adult still stealing as not only harming society and committing sins against his Goddess, but simply being too lazy to work for what they needed. But even this brief litle paragraph isn't fully accurate, because that makes it sound like he hated the poor, but he didn't and in fact he gave to charities and donated heavily to the poor, because as a person blessed with wealth, that was his religious duty. Some of this came out in play, but the seed that led to his personality and his most iconic moments in the game, started with me writing his backstory and figuring out these details. A more recent character of mine is a rogue. The DM is running a Sarlona campaign and wanted us to be part of the Summit Road, an covert organization working to wage guerilla war on our neighbor, a despotic, psionically controlled state. I decided to run with a character who'd been on my back burner, who was raised by a "patriotic" but heavily abusive father. He'd been trained (violently) since a very young age to join the Road and fight for the country, despite how "worthless" and "pathetic" he was. I've got a signifigant amount of backstory. Who taught him medicine, his childhood crush, what his father did, where they came from. And all of it informs decisions my character makes. Because of his father, he does not question authority, almost ever. The only times he has even thought to defy the group have been to sacrifice himself for their safety, or when we came across an enemy child, who was destined to be possessed by a spirit and turned into a tyrant. This was emotionally scarring for my character, because abandoning this child who needed help, turning his back on him, made him reflect on the people who might have saved him from his Father. It was a massive impact, but I wouldn't have been able to accurately portray that if I didn't lay the groundwork. If I didn't figure out who this character was beforehand.So, to begin with, this wouldn't do anything to change the backstory writing I would do. It also doesn't help if you as the player already know about the world, but that is a separate point. The first point is that people do not just spring up out of the ground, fully formed, even a farm boy has had defining life experiences, people who taught him values. Is there a church in town, does he believe in that deity, how about his friends, who are they. And so on and so forth. The second point is equipment. You are the son of a farmer, who might make a few silver per day. As a level 1 fighter you start out with 122 gold worth of equipment (Chainmail, Longsword, Shield, 2 Handaxes, Dungeoneer's Pack) That is over a years worth of labor from your farmer parents. How did you get all of that, and all the training to use it? Whatever answer you come up with starts a story. Found it? How, where, why did you keep it, why didn't you sell it? Mentor figure? Who are they, why teach you, where are they now? Self Taught and earned? Why, how, did anyone notice, approve, disapprove? This all creates a story, and as the player, I feel the need to know these answers. The person who robs the dead and decides to go on to be a glorious knight is different from the man who scrimped and saved and forged his own gear to set out and earn a place in the world by his own strength and will. Now, I suppose you could argue that the DM doesn't need to know all of this. I could write a one sentence or two sentence blip and that might be all the DM needs to see. But, if I am going to write it anyways, I want the DM to have access to it. Because it helps them understand who the character is, so they can figure out what is going to come from that character. Knowing I have a character who will never question authority, leads to different hooks than a character who is fully self-deterministic.And this brings me to this. None of the games I play or DM are this deadly. That is not to say I don't put my players through the wringer. I've had a few groups really struggling, but I'm very careful to avoid that level of lethality. Because it just creates issues I prefer not to deal with. My players try and react like their characters would, so a new person suddenly showing up to join the group is always a challenge.Also, people want to build a concept, and generally their concept isn't realized until 5th level. So killing them again and again and again and again (because none of them are "true masters" of the game so none of them would ever reach 5th level) would just be boring for everyone, and prevent them from getting that concept they want. I don't want to imply it doesn't work for your table, but... I'm reminding of a con game that was happening in the same room as our games. The DM would take each persons character sheet, write in huge red marker how they died, and pin it to the wall. Like, it was some sort of wall of shame. And they covered a massive portion of the wall, because they were running an old, deadly module. And a lot of people who came in after they left would always ask us what was going on, and why they were doing it. And a lot of people seemed really confused, because they didn't see the point in celebrating the deaths of characters like that. Anybody can kill a character, any character can die through negligence, bad luck, or poor planning, it doesn't really matter as much as the characters who succeed and actually change the story going forward. Maybe I'm explaining it poorly, I'm distracted by a lot of things today, but trying to picture a game where most of the characters die before level 3 makes me wonder what the point even is. I'd stop running the game, my players would leave, because we couldn't advance a story beyond the opening act. Who cares why the goblins kidnapped the merchant and stole her jeweled necklace, half the party died in the fighting and the other half died when we headed out to try and get to the next town. Only one person made it through both fights and as the most senior party member they decided to get us all killed going somewhere else.</blockquote>

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