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<blockquote data-quote="tetrasodium" data-source="post: 7909840" data-attributes="member: 93670"><p>[USER=6563]@Azzy[/USER] Barovia is not default grimdark, Ravenloft itself has some pretty heavy grimdark elements. More specifically <em>any </em>setting the gm wants to use and tells his players the capaign will be a grimdark dark grusome twist on $setting is grimdark and I'm pretty sure the based on modified module was <a href="https://ravenloft.fandom.com/wiki/RA1-Feast_of_Goblyns" target="_blank">Feast of Goblyns</a>, but it may have been one related to <a href="https://ravenloft.fandom.com/wiki/Anhktepot" target="_blank">this</a> lovable mother teresa type. Feast is basically horrific magebreeding unleashed on victim "patients" & could very easily be twisted to grimdark.</p><p></p><p>[USER=6895991]@Coroc[/USER] your right that they would probably be great (role)players <em>if </em>they were willing to make some semblance of effort to fit their character to what the gm gave them/develops; but doing so would make them a dirty <em>roll</em> player like PC2 and that is too far beneath someone like them who is quick to replace "no offense but..." with "I'm a role player and my character would...". IME it doesn't matter how much the gm provides or tries to work with pc1 & pc3 as both will expect the world to cater to their ill fitting backstory while looking down on PC2 for being a <em>roll</em> player unfolding/learning her character's background based on how it can fit with the game as it develops. </p><p></p><p>As to everton orcs, I'm guessing it's probably a city or something. I was posting from bed trying to get back to sleep & my phone autocorrected eberron to everton or I typo'd it. Eberron's orc's are different both mechanically from volo's & all the lore/fluff surrounding them is <em>wildly</em> different</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="tetrasodium, post: 7909840, member: 93670"] [USER=6563]@Azzy[/USER] Barovia is not default grimdark, Ravenloft itself has some pretty heavy grimdark elements. More specifically [I]any [/I]setting the gm wants to use and tells his players the capaign will be a grimdark dark grusome twist on $setting is grimdark and I'm pretty sure the based on modified module was [URL='https://ravenloft.fandom.com/wiki/RA1-Feast_of_Goblyns']Feast of Goblyns[/URL], but it may have been one related to [URL='https://ravenloft.fandom.com/wiki/Anhktepot']this[/URL] lovable mother teresa type. Feast is basically horrific magebreeding unleashed on victim "patients" & could very easily be twisted to grimdark. [USER=6895991]@Coroc[/USER] your right that they would probably be great (role)players [I]if [/I]they were willing to make some semblance of effort to fit their character to what the gm gave them/develops; but doing so would make them a dirty [I]roll[/I] player like PC2 and that is too far beneath someone like them who is quick to replace "no offense but..." with "I'm a role player and my character would...". IME it doesn't matter how much the gm provides or tries to work with pc1 & pc3 as both will expect the world to cater to their ill fitting backstory while looking down on PC2 for being a [I]roll[/I] player unfolding/learning her character's background based on how it can fit with the game as it develops. As to everton orcs, I'm guessing it's probably a city or something. I was posting from bed trying to get back to sleep & my phone autocorrected eberron to everton or I typo'd it. Eberron's orc's are different both mechanically from volo's & all the lore/fluff surrounding them is [I]wildly[/I] different [/QUOTE]
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