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<blockquote data-quote="Felon" data-source="post: 865469" data-attributes="member: 8158">....OK, OK, I'll let just a little constructiveness set in:To be fair, there are no official rules for how sleeping affects listen checks, are there? If the DM made the penalty significant, it would be tatamount to failure. And then you're a coup de grace away from death's door.Hell, I've had that happen. Sometimes players get careless about where they sleep.Personally, I detest them both. Darkvision is a non sequitor; if there's no light where you are, vision doesn't work. Ift's like giving someone the ability to hear in a vacum. Infravision at least works off a reasonable principle, that your eyes are picking the infra-red wavelengths generates by objetcs, but how would this stop a dwarf from stubbing his toe in the depths of some cold-ass mine?Always seemed like a lame rule to me anyway. If there is some game balance issue that necessitates attaching a cost to learning spells, then why allow divine casters to gain automatic access to all spells that they are capable of casting? If there's no harm in doing that, why handicap the wizard by making him not only go out and pick up spells, but on top of that actually make pay to scribe them into his spellbook?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Felon, post: 865469, member: 8158"] ....OK, OK, I'll let just a [i]little[/i] constructiveness set in: To be fair, there are no official rules for how sleeping affects listen checks, are there? If the DM made the penalty significant, it would be tatamount to failure. And then you're a coup de grace away from death's door. Hell, I've had that happen. Sometimes players get careless about where they sleep. Personally, I detest them both. Darkvision is a non sequitor; if there's no light where you are, vision doesn't work. Ift's like giving someone the ability to hear in a vacum. Infravision at least works off a reasonable principle, that your eyes are picking the infra-red wavelengths generates by objetcs, but how would this stop a dwarf from stubbing his toe in the depths of some cold-ass mine? Always seemed like a lame rule to me anyway. If there is some game balance issue that necessitates attaching a cost to learning spells, then why allow divine casters to gain automatic access to all spells that they are capable of casting? If there's no harm in doing that, why handicap the wizard by making him not only go out and pick up spells, but on top of that actually make pay to scribe them into his spellbook? [/QUOTE]

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