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<blockquote data-quote="MechaTarrasque" data-source="post: 7519226" data-attributes="member: 6801226"><p>Bah, not to divert too much into a sorcerer thing, but metamagic was pretty obviously a hail Mary play after the playtest one didn't get any love. Admittedly "doing something interesting with spellcasting" wasn't a 5e thing (and since the Mystic doesn't seem to be supported, still isn't a 5e thing) and not having the sorcerer in the PHB (so it would be clear to the most obsessed that they really, really were not going to port 3x magic into 5e, so you do need to think about what other gimmick to give the class) would have caused problems, so there probably was no good option.</p><p></p><p>The warlock was a similar (although much more successful) hail Mary taking a little bit from the 3x warlock (eldritch blast) and a little bit from the 4e warlock (where EB was an at-will power, so you largely didn't use it after the first couple of levels until you got the feat that let you recharge an encounter power when you hit with an at-will power) that focused as much on curses (hex anyone?) and "creepy" powers (which I will freely admit the 5e one could use more of). While my preference would have been much more 4e than 3x (for both the sorcerer and the warlock), I have to admit for the warlock, it works out, because it allows the class to have an impressive amount of out-of-combat resources since EB "pulls the weight", thus allowing it to fill a useful niche.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="MechaTarrasque, post: 7519226, member: 6801226"] Bah, not to divert too much into a sorcerer thing, but metamagic was pretty obviously a hail Mary play after the playtest one didn't get any love. Admittedly "doing something interesting with spellcasting" wasn't a 5e thing (and since the Mystic doesn't seem to be supported, still isn't a 5e thing) and not having the sorcerer in the PHB (so it would be clear to the most obsessed that they really, really were not going to port 3x magic into 5e, so you do need to think about what other gimmick to give the class) would have caused problems, so there probably was no good option. The warlock was a similar (although much more successful) hail Mary taking a little bit from the 3x warlock (eldritch blast) and a little bit from the 4e warlock (where EB was an at-will power, so you largely didn't use it after the first couple of levels until you got the feat that let you recharge an encounter power when you hit with an at-will power) that focused as much on curses (hex anyone?) and "creepy" powers (which I will freely admit the 5e one could use more of). While my preference would have been much more 4e than 3x (for both the sorcerer and the warlock), I have to admit for the warlock, it works out, because it allows the class to have an impressive amount of out-of-combat resources since EB "pulls the weight", thus allowing it to fill a useful niche. [/QUOTE]
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