Banned Books Week

Lord Ravinous said:
The moral of the story? Don't be a Nazi.

I'd think a better moral would be don't be a knee jerk labler of other and believer in twisted, exagerated hype. This is certainly a lesson to be learned by some of the challangers of books, but it looks like it's much more needed on these boards. :(

The good news is, if this was usenet, this thread would be officially over and you would have "lost". :p

Kahuna Burger
 

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Dirigible said:
Ahh. This explains why I can;t get "Kinky Buddhist Afro-French Depressed Angst-Ridden Teens Protest The Anti-Fist Raising Protocols, Naked" for love nor money.

Someone would need to write it first.

Hm. That sounds like a project...

Slim
 

Buttercup said:
In seven years, that has shut every one of them up. Because it's the truth, and the truth shall set you free.

My D&D players would never sit through a soliloquy that long.

"I attack the librarian!"

Wulf
 

Kahuna Burger said:
I'm in perfect agreement with Mark Chance.... I knew this was a screwed up thread... ;)

But perfect agreement is the natural state of any agreement that coincides with anything I hold to be true. :D
 

I've personally banned a great many books. Of course, since said ban applies only to me, really, I don't see what the big deal is. Who is the "banner" in this case? Some kind of library association? -- Oh, nevermind, I see, the A.L.A. Eh, who really cares what they say anyway? To me, banning books is silly unless you've got the government behind you, since you can still get them easily enough from some other source.
 

No, Joshua. The American Library Association does not ban books, nor to they hold that books should be banned. They merely keep track of successful and unsuccessful challenges to books in libraries. This list is their report card of which titles have most frequently been challenged. Some of those challenges have resulted in the removal of said books from the shelves of a particular library, and some of those challenges have been defeated. Please read more carefully before you accuse ALA and it's members (which would include me, and most likely Eric Noah and Cthulu's Librarian, among others who are regulars here) of being book banners, ok?:)
 

Joshua Dyal said:
To me, banning books is silly unless you've got the government behind you, since you can still get them easily enough from some other source.
Maybe you had more pocket money and mobility when you were a kid? If my school library had not stocked a certain book, odds are very good I would never have heard of it or been able to read it unless a friend had it (which wasn't a big chance; I was the only 'reader' of any friends I had). The public library was all the way downtown, several miles from my house, and certainly not in an area I'd have liked to travel in alone (our downtown when I was a kid was a total wasteland of boarded-up shops and loiterers). The internet didn't exist yet, and even if it had, I would not have had a computer; they cost more than a luxury car does today. And I live in the third largest city in Alabama.

Thankfully, I had parents that would take me to the bookstore when we'd go out to eat, so I got to pick up a lot of things; I'd usually buy 2-3 books then (of course, novels were $1.25 then...)

Lots of kids in our state exist in that kind of vacuum because they live in the small towns or rural areas, where the only books they might see outside of school are when the Bookmobile comes to town. And these small town districts are the main ones (it seems to me; I have no stats. Buttercup?) that will probably challenge a book as inappropriate.
 

I don't have any stats on that, Wayne, but I imagine you're correct. Larger communities are usually more diverse, so it isn't as easy to get a mob together to go march on the school library about Harry Potter or some such.

When libraries are neglected, poor children are disproportionally affected. They are the ones who can't just go to Borders to get what they want. Rich kids have cash to burn, and even middle class kids can usually scare up the money to buy a book now and then.

Why does this matter? It matters because the best way to become highly literate is to read a lot. Advanced literacy skills are more and more essential in western society, if one wants to make a decent living, and even communicate with like minded individuals (as we're doing here at EN World). The people who end up on public assistance and in all those expensive prisons, overwhelmingly have poor reading skills. Now, I'm not saying that being a good reader will make one an honest person, or a hard worker, or anything like that. But if one is already on the fringes of society, having trouble with an essential skill just makes one more disenfranchised.
 

Oddly, a number of those books were *assigned* reading in my schools (notably, Twain, Steinbeck, Salinger, Harper Lee, Shel Silverstein [3rd grade], Huxley, Roald Dahl, Vonnegut, and Golding).

A quick persusal of the list implies that half the books are being contested from the Right, and the other half from the Left.

We may have finally stumbled upon the Grand Unification Theory of Group Politics... Namely, both sides seek to stifle speech it deems 'offensive'.

Guy Montag, where art thou?

"Now let's take up the minorities in our civilization, shall we? Bigger the population, the more minorities. Don't step on the toes of the dog-lovers, the cat-lovers, doctors, lawyers, merchants, chiefs, Mormons, Baptists, Unitarians, second-generation Chinese, Swedes, Italians, Germans, Texans, Brooklynites, Irishmen, people from Oregon or Mexico . . . The bigger your market, Montag, the less you handle controversy, remember that! All the minor minor minorities with their navels to be kept clean. Authors, full of evil thoughts, lock up your typewriters. They did. Magazines became a nice blend of vanilla tapioca. Books, so the damned snobbish critics said, were dishwater. No wonder books stopped selling, the critics said. But the public, knowing what it wanted, spinning happily, let the comic books survive. And the three-dimensional sex-magazines, of course. There you have it, Montag. It didn't come from the Government down. There was no dictum, no declaration, no censorship, to start with, no! Technology, mass exploitation, and minority pressure carried the trick, thank God. Today, thanks to them, you can stay happy all the time, you are allowed to read comics, the good old confessions, or trade journals."
~Ray Bradbury, Farenheit 451, 1953
 
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