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<blockquote data-quote="FormerlyHemlock" data-source="post: 6617959" data-attributes="member: 6787650"><p>It does look like this particular fighter is going to lose to this particular paladin, but I wouldn't generalize to all fighters. This guy took Heavy Armor Mastery which is great against hordes of monsters and rubbish against a GWM-enabled paladin, so he's not getting much benefit out of one of his major feats. On the other hand, the paladin also has Heavy Armor Mastery, but the fighter has no GWM to cancel it out. (It's not clear BTW what the fighter spent his extra feat on--maybe an ASI?) That means the paladin has a huge advantage, probably 2:1, before you even factor in class abilities. It would still be a lopsided fight even if this were fighter vs. fighter. Normally I'd expect to see a battlemaster with GWM and Precise Strike so he can turn misses into hits[1], or an Eldritch Knight[2] with sword and board so he can Shield/Blur himself against hits while his familiar Helps him get advantage, but I'm not sure what this battlemaster is doing with his superiority dice. Maybe he's going to Disarm the paladin and kick his maul off a cliff? That could work.</p><p></p><p>Also, Sacred Weapon is fairly easily negated if he's willing to just stall for a minute. Just move away as quickly as Carlius moves towards you. (Eat an opportunity attack if you need to--depends on circumstances and terrain.) In cramped quarters this wouldn't work of course, or if you were fighting in some kind of formalized setting where the paladin has a recognized "right" to be hitting you with his holy sword. In a formalized setting you may be able to stall just by talking to Carlius and/or the judges. In real life, fencers buy time by tying their shoelaces...</p><p></p><p>-Max</p><p></p><p>[1] With GWM and a halberd and Precise Strike, he'd hit the paladin for 87 points of damage ((4 + 5 + 5 + 5.5 - 5) / 20 * 20 * 6, neglecting crits and assuming Action Surge usage) in the first round.</p><p></p><p>[2] The most effective Eldritch Knight against this paladin is actually one who takes Expeditious Retreat so he can kill the paladin to death from range without risk, but that's clearly not the concept you have in mind for Uther so we'll say no more about archery.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="FormerlyHemlock, post: 6617959, member: 6787650"] It does look like this particular fighter is going to lose to this particular paladin, but I wouldn't generalize to all fighters. This guy took Heavy Armor Mastery which is great against hordes of monsters and rubbish against a GWM-enabled paladin, so he's not getting much benefit out of one of his major feats. On the other hand, the paladin also has Heavy Armor Mastery, but the fighter has no GWM to cancel it out. (It's not clear BTW what the fighter spent his extra feat on--maybe an ASI?) That means the paladin has a huge advantage, probably 2:1, before you even factor in class abilities. It would still be a lopsided fight even if this were fighter vs. fighter. Normally I'd expect to see a battlemaster with GWM and Precise Strike so he can turn misses into hits[1], or an Eldritch Knight[2] with sword and board so he can Shield/Blur himself against hits while his familiar Helps him get advantage, but I'm not sure what this battlemaster is doing with his superiority dice. Maybe he's going to Disarm the paladin and kick his maul off a cliff? That could work. Also, Sacred Weapon is fairly easily negated if he's willing to just stall for a minute. Just move away as quickly as Carlius moves towards you. (Eat an opportunity attack if you need to--depends on circumstances and terrain.) In cramped quarters this wouldn't work of course, or if you were fighting in some kind of formalized setting where the paladin has a recognized "right" to be hitting you with his holy sword. In a formalized setting you may be able to stall just by talking to Carlius and/or the judges. In real life, fencers buy time by tying their shoelaces... -Max [1] With GWM and a halberd and Precise Strike, he'd hit the paladin for 87 points of damage ((4 + 5 + 5 + 5.5 - 5) / 20 * 20 * 6, neglecting crits and assuming Action Surge usage) in the first round. [2] The most effective Eldritch Knight against this paladin is actually one who takes Expeditious Retreat so he can kill the paladin to death from range without risk, but that's clearly not the concept you have in mind for Uther so we'll say no more about archery. [/QUOTE]
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